Feb. 4, 2026

Defending A Friend: Inside A True Crime Podcaster’s Yearlong Battle With Smears And Online Harassment

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Season 4

A lie doesn’t need proof—just timing, volume, and a platform. We pull back the curtain on a year where a “gotcha” narrative tried to turn a case into a character hit, then followed us into DMs, inboxes, and guest lists. I walk through what actually happened: the outreach that sparked this, the promises made, the traps set, and the receipts we gathered along the way. From film credits that contradict a basement story to releases, edits by later distributors, and on-record statements, we trace how claims diverged from verifiable evidence.

You’ll hear how I approach sensitive allegations: ask direct questions, verify chain of custody, compare footage norms, and contact every party—then publish what holds up. We talk about an affidavit that raised serious concerns, a gag order that muzzled one side, and the choice I made to visit Arkansas, interview workplaces, and corroborate timelines instead of arguing on Reddit. When a troll started emailing my guests with cherry-picked narratives, I read the note, line by line, and answered with dates, documents, and full-call audio. Drama is easy; diligence is work.

We also clarify side plots that trolls twist for sport: my exit from a major tech company, which is under legal review; accusations that I “flip” without new facts, when the record shows the opposite; and ratings brigades meant to bury shows with noise. Through it all, the mission stays the same: tell the truth, protect the vulnerable, and keep receipts. If you care about integrity in true crime, you deserve more than a hot take—you deserve the record.

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Cover Art and Logo created by Diana of Other Worldly

Sound Mixing and editing by David McClam

Intro script by Sophie Wild From Fiverr & David McClam

Intro and outro jingle by Jacqueline G. (JacquieVoice) From Fiverr

Chapters

00:00 - Corrections, Credits, And A Warning

01:01 - Season Kickoff And Mental Health Note

02:30 - Why This Story Must Be Told

04:00 - Enter “Pretend” And The Witt Case

08:45 - Breaking Down The Lockhart Claims

16:20 - Watching The Video And Finding Credits

22:00 - What A Real Journalistic Process Requires

26:30 - The Affidavit, Lawsuit, And Gag Order

31:05 - The Recorded Call And Publishing Receipts

35:20 - Why The “Cult” Narrative Spread

39:10 - A Troll Contacts My Guests

44:30 - Reading The Email And Responding

50:40 - The Deanna Stevenson Case Claims

56:10 - Apple Firing, Race, And Legal Steps

01:01:45 - Marriage, Family, And Boundary Lines

01:06:10 - Ratings Brigades And Platform Moves

01:11:20 - Final Word And Song Introduction

Transcript
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Alright, guys, we go into the episode.

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A couple of things, two things I forgot to tell you, and one thing I want to correct.

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In the episode, when I talk about Chris Corner, I said that his girlfriend's thing was Grace.

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I didn't have my notes in front of me.

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I have somebody listen to this, and it has been corrected.

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So the name is Irma.

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So when I said Grace, the name is Irma.

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Also, what I forgot to tell you is uh when it comes to the album The Witch Hunter Lanny Hughes, all of the lyrics was written by me.

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I did say that, but they all derive from either transcripts of my show We Are Not Afraid or unreleased written material.

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And the last thing is parental advisory is strongly advised due to the subject matter that I had to go into in this episode.

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So please be sure to use caution if you're listening with young children.

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Alright, guys, enjoy the episode, and I'll catch you on the next one.

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Welcome to True Crime, authors and extraordinary people, the podcast where we bring two passions together.

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The show that gives new meaning to the old adage, truth is stranger than fiction.

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And reminding you that there is an extraordinary person in all of us.

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Here is your host, David McClam.

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What's going on, everybody?

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Welcome to the episode of True Crime, Other Story of People.

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Of course, I'm your man, David McClam.

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It is the Suicide Prevention Hotline.

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They will get you the help that you need.

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And just in case no one else has told you this today, let me be the first to tell you I do care and I do need you to be here.

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There is nothing worth your life.

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Alright, guys.

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So let me shoot and be honest with you.

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This is the first episode of a season four, besides the black history facts that you've been getting, which is in addition to your regular episodes.

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I do hope that you've been enjoying those.

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We've dropped Rosa Parks and just dropped Ed Sullivan.

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So I hope that you're enjoying those and make sure to come back every day for the month of February, you will get a new fact.

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Today, though, I'm gonna come at you with a little bit of a personal story.

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The reason is because I need to get in front of this since it's going further than what I ever expected it to go, even though this has been going on now for over a year.

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Remember, if you come to my platform, I do use my life and I do tell you things about myself and how I was raised and all my marriages and the whole nine to help someone else.

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This is another one of those.

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Not that I want to give you my personal information, but when it starts to mess with my professional life and I gotta nip somebody in the bud, this is where I do it at.

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Because you, as the audience, deserve to know what's going on.

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If you start seeing weird things, you need to know where it's coming from.

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And you need to be able to stick a fork in the people that is creating this controversy as it seems.

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So let me tell you a story that all started in 2024.

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And if you follow my podcast long enough, you will already know some of this.

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But I'm gonna get into a little bit of the meat and potatoes because now I have one of the main trolls deciding that he wants to contact guests on my show.

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So we're gonna get ahead of that.

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And if there's any guests listening or anybody wants to come on the show, everything I'm about to tell you is verifiable.

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It is true, and it's undisputable.

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So let's begin.

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In the summer of 2024, I defended a friend of mine.

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You guys all know her, she's Ladonna Humphrey.

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Ladonna Humphrey and I met probably about a couple of years before all this went down, and I'm not gonna sit back and let a friend get roasted.

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Now, there is an email I'm going to read you, but since he's already in the email when you hear it, doxed everybody, so can I.

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So there was this host of a show named The Pretend Podcast.

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This podcast is supposed to rid out con artists, but the problem is the host himself is the biggest con artist in the world.

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If you ever go and listen to his show, there is a lot of people on Reddit that is saying that his show is a scam, and he doesn't know why he goes after people that he does, and he always goes after folks that he has absolutely no proof of anything.

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He does this to make money.

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And if you don't believe me, again, go to the Reddit there and look at the pretend podcast, and it would have a long thread where people would tell you we quit listening because everything went behind the paywall.

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Never heard of this guy until all this happened.

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One day, LaDonna Humphrey calls me and says, Hey, I just got contacted by a journalist.

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And I was like, all right, who is this guy?

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Supposedly he's some big-time journalist and he's won an Emmy Award, which I'll tell you what he won one for because it's kind of a joke, because he's making it seem like that he did something big and he didn't.

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You and I could win an Emmy for what he won one for.

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Uh, and I thought this was gonna be good.

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What did he want to talk about?

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Well, my friend Ledonna Humphrey has been working on the Melissa Witt case at this point for eight years, and that's what he used to get in.

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And he said, Yeah, I want to talk to you about your work, Melissa Witt.

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But what the problem was is when he called her to talk about this so-called work in the case of Melissa Witt, that's not what he called for.

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He actually tried to trap her in because Alicia Lockhart, who was her ex-co-host, another guy named Anthony Christopher, who I've told you about him, but she blew the whistle on him for Medicaid fraud, decided that they wanted to go after LaDonna Humphrey in a big way.

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And they had set out to ruin her life.

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And the reason why I can say that is because it's true, and when they released the first episode, she was supposed to be at CrimeCon that year.

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So they wanted to release it to create mass hysteria so that maybe CrimeCon did what they did, not have her on.

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Anthony Christopher has set out to ruin her life.

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And because Alicia Lockhart, who lied from the beginning, okay, they did co-write a book called Strangled, that the publicist had to be forced to remove because of all of the lies that everybody found out Alicia Lockhart was telling.

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In the email Marie, it accuses me of believing that she was raped by a producer that produced Death Fetish.

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So he goes on to say that I believed her until all of a sudden I didn't, and then I had the uh the rapist come on my show.

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Well, first of all, let me clarify that the alleged rapist.

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See, because there is no police report, there was no filing, there was no jail time, it was her word against his.

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Now, I do not take that lightly, and you guys that's been on my show know that.

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I've been raped, I have been in domestic situations, I have been abused as a child.

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Rapist does not come on my show unless you are telling a lie and I can prove it.

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And that's exactly what I did.

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So, yes, Lisa Lockhart was believed until there was a lie.

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She tried to extort LaDonna Humphrey for money, so she went to the publisher and told the publisher that Ladonna Humphrey hadn't paid her any money.

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So when that lie came across, when she wrote the publisher, guess what the publisher did?

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They wrote LaDonna Humphrey and said, Hey, Lisa Lockhart's saying that you didn't pay her all the royalties that she's supposed to get.

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Can you prove that you did?

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Madonna Humphrey said, Absolutely.

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Now, maybe she don't want me to tell you this part, but all of this has got to be aired because you have to know who the innocent people is and who the people is that's now trying to come after me and they're writing my guess.

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Madonna Humphrey provided every bank statement that she had that proved that not only was she given her royalty, I came to find out, well, Adonna Humphrey was giving her all of the royalties from the book.

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The little tiny bit that she kept, she put back into Melissa Witt case.

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And I asked her, why in God's green earth would you give somebody 100%?

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And you know what she said to me?

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Because she needed it more than I did.

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This is the kind of person you're dealing with.

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I'll be all right.

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As long as a little bit goes back into what I'm trying to do, Melissa Witt, I'm cool.

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So guess what?

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The moment that the publisher got all these statements that had dates and times and transfers and who it went to and all of that good stuff, now this prompted the publisher to say, well, if she can tell one lie, let's examine this book a little closer because maybe there's even more lies.

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And they found a bevy of them.

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She lied so that she could get next to LaDonna Humphrey for fame.

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She lied by saying she may have known a death fetish producer that may be involved in this, even went as far as saying that she saw a Mickey Mouse watch and was forced to wear one in a Death Fetish film that this guy produced.

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Now, the significance of the Mickey Mouse watch is because Melissa Witt was killed, she was wearing a Mickey Mouse watch that has never ever been found.

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At this particular time, after writing her first book, The Girl I Never Knew Who Killed Melissa Witt, it had come to their attention that maybe they need to look into the Death Fetish world because the way that she was strangled and the whole nine-yard and the way this store was coming down, it looked like it could have been something to do with Death Fetish.

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Folks, let me tell you, don't ever drive into Death Fetish.

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You need like three therapists and some hospital stay by the time you do.

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It is just that brutal.

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Then she says that yes, she had produced a film, but she was raped doing this film because she did not know that's what it was going to be.

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Now, just because I took her episodes down don't mean I still don't have them because I do.

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And I'm spending so much time on Alicia Lockhart because as he points that out, I don't want you guys to ever believe that I would have a rapist on my show and discounter rape victim.

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So, if I was to repost that episode, there was a bunch of questions that I asked Alicia Lockhart about that day and time.

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Let me tell you some key points to see if you think that this would even be possible.

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And I understand that this is supposed to be a death fetterist producer, which is some of the most, I have no other way to say it, raunchiest, shocking pornography that is out there that you ever want to see.

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Depicting women mostly getting tortured or hung or killed or prodded, you don't want to go down there.

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So I asked her what happened on that day.

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First of all, the story came about that, you know, when he befriended her, she needed a job and the whole nine yards, and she's supposed to go be a secretary.

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And the day she met him, I guess he took her down to one of his studios and they were shooting a clown porn.

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Now, if you are uneasy with porn at this point, and the dude that's about to hire you, that you're supposed to be keeping his books and shooting clown porn, for those who don't know what that is, this is supposed to be, I guess, a bunch of people dressed up like clowns and they're doing the porn thing.

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I'd have been gone that day.

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A couple of days goes by, she still don't have all the things that she needs to run this business.

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She has no laptop, she has no program, she has nothing, but she sticks around because he keeps saying, hey, I'm just gonna pay you for the whole day.

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I don't have, you know, anything for you to do today, but I'm gonna pay you for the whole day.

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Her main concern was getting paid.

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Then that ends up leading to him telling her, hey, I have this customer that wanted something specific.

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And I believe I remember the story, right?

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It started off with something to do with her feet and all of that.

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And then it escalated to where it was supposed to be like full nudity.

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I asked her directly, Did you know you were going to be naked?

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And she said, Yes.

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The second question I asked was, Did you give permission for this to happen?

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She said, Yes.

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All right, I'm confused.

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Because if you're saying that you was raped, but if the guy came and told you directly you're gonna be butt naked, and do you and you gave him permission to, not saying she can't be raped, but doesn't that sound a little suspicious to you?

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So I go on, well, what happened today?

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How did you end up in the basement?

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Because she swears she ends up in this basement and then ends up at home or something like that, and she can't remember how she got there.

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So she says that she thinks she was drugged because he took her to his house around his then girlfriend and child.

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And I think the child belonged to the girlfriend.

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Supposedly, the now new porn star, the porn producer, is gonna sit you at a table with his family, his girlfriend, and the girlfriend's kid while you eat.

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So they all had lunch.

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She says that somewhere during that lunch, he must have slipped her something in her food or her drink because she passed out, was taken downstairs in the basement.

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She swears she doesn't know anything that happens, except for shot.

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And she does briefly remember feeling touches or whatever, but doesn't remember anything that was after that.

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Next question I asked was, Were you by yourself?

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She says, Yes.

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Now I want you to hold on to that because I'm proving these lies one by one.

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She says, Yeah, was nobody down in the basement but him and her.

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That's it.

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Now, if you have a girlfriend and you shooting death fetish porn, and you have any kind of female, whether she's attractive or not, that you know is gonna be in your basement naked, your kid is at home that day, which means that the kid is subject and can at any time just slip downstairs.

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You gonna let that happen in your basement?

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But I digress.

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So she swears that she couldn't find this film anywhere.

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Then all of a sudden, she comes up with this film.

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People, I've seen the film.

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I had to see the film for this reason.

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Because she said she was by herself in the basement.

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Second, I needed to know, just like Lord Donna needed to know, was she drugged?

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Did she act drugged?

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Did she look comatosed?

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Was she laid out?

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The other one was she said she was raped doing this film.

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Okay, did he rape her?

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We need to know that.

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She said he was raped, he raped her doing the film.

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And was she truly alone in the basement?

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Let me tell you what we saw.

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There was no rape.

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You do see him put fingers in places he probably shouldn't have, which I asked her again about that.

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I said, okay, if you knew that, you know, did you know he was gonna do something like that?

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Did that discuss?

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And she told me, yeah.

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So she was okay with that.

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It was supposed to be like a medical scene.

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Like he was supposed to be like a coroner.

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Okay.

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The first time I give you is Chris is a fake name, but Chris.

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It was supposed to be, he was supposed to be a coroner, and the and Elisa Lockhart is supposed to be dead, and he's supposed to be coming out and examining the body and letting, you know, making the notes that medical examiners do before they take him to the morgue with a little sexy twist to it, right?

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How is she killed?

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Strangulation and rubbing of hands everywhere and things of that nature.

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This is what Death Fetish Porn is about.

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At the end of the scene, you see her get picked up by him and carries her up the stairs.

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Now, if you are truly knocked out, you are drugged.

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Your eyes should not be fluttering.

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I'm not gonna say that maybe, for lack of a better term, there shouldn't be no arousal.

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The body's gonna do what the body's gonna do.

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But you can clearly see that she was not knocked out.

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You can tell by what her face looked, you could tell by the way her eyes were fluttering.

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She was moving at certain points when he was touching her, even though with slight, she was moving.

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So I called Adonna and said, I don't know if you've seen it, but here's the case, here's what I'm getting at.

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You gotta see it, but like she's moving to me.

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Here is the big thing that me and LaDonna missed.

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Remember, she said that she was in the basement by herself.

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Folks, I've been doing this for over 10 years as far as podcasting.

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I've been in the entertainment field for more than 20 years due to my longevity with YouTube.

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The one thing I know about besides podcast editing now is video.

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What a hand video looks like versus a video camera sitting on a tripod versus somebody not shooting the film for you or you doing it yourself.

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Because a majority of my YouTube career, just about everything, except only one or two, I shot the video by myself.

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It was on a tripod, pointed at me, turned the camera on, boom.

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If I show some of the old footage, you'd actually see me getting in place and doing the countdown and rubbing my eyes and clearing my throat, making sure I'm ready to go because I'm by myself, the camera's rolling because I can't keep walking over there, right?

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This is back before the remote control did the full function.

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And I said to Ladon, I said, for this to be by herself, in the basement alone, and the cameras on the tripod, there certainly were so many close-ups and pullouts.

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Chris had no controller in his hand because he was too busy doing the touching thing that he was doing.

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So if there was nobody else in the basement, how was this happening?

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Something said, go back and watch just the ending.

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Fast forward just to the very end.

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So I did.

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And what we missed because we weren't looking at the whole video.

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We didn't want to see the whole thing.

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I really didn't want to see Alicia Lockhart naked.

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At this time, I consider her a friend, and I would never want to see a friend of mine in that position.

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But I had told her for us to get the full contrast, I need to look to see what's going on.

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So, you know, I don't know if you can still after all this time.

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If you need to press charges, man, you need to do this.

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I didn't watch it to the end.

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I just watched it enough to see what he was doing.

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I skimmed through it, right, just to see if there was any, you know, rape going on.

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Maybe if he decided to get naked or partially naked or whatever, if anybody was on top of her side.

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That's what I was looking for.

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Saw none of that, got out of the film.

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So I went back, followed my first mind, skinned all the way to the end, and sure enough, just like every other Chris Corner video, there's credits.

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Now, how do I know this?

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Because of the fact that when I reached Dr.

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Chris Corner to ask him questions about it, he said, I know this is not your thing, but I have several videos that's online.

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If I'll tell you where they are and what site runs them, if you go look at any video I've ever done, there's always two things.

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There is ending credits, and there is the girls I say cut, they all get up, we're all talking, laughing.

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You see nobody's dead, you see nobody is hurt.

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This was all a fake video for fetish sake.

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Alright.

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Examine that.

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Sure enough, and everything he said was true.

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That was happening.

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In the credits of Alicia's film, I can't remember her name, I think her name was Grace, but it actually says that the camera work was done by his girlfriend Grace.

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That's a lie right there on Alicia's part.

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She told me in the interview, she's told everybody that listened, she's told Javier Leva that she was in this basement by herself.

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Miraculously, a ghost is in the room because it's zooming in and zooming out.

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But at the end of the credit, it says Grace was running the show.

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The one thing I didn't find was where was the cutscene?

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Where did all the girls jump up?

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And where did the girls do this, that, and other thing?

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So I asked Chris that.

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I said, you're right.

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Every other film that you've ever done has these end credits and it has these girls saying, when you say cut, get up, and you guys see that everybody's fine.

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However, I did not find that at the end of Alicia's video.

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What happened?

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He says, I haven't owned this video for many years.

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See, he sold the footage and the rights to somebody in Russia.

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So there's a Russian that owns this film and still puts it up on this particular website.

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So the Russian guy cut out the part where the girls jumped up because he wanted you to believe as close as possible that the person in the video was indeed dead.

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Chris Corner was only doing it for fetish's sake.

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So he wanted you to know at the end that nobody was hurt or anything because people have started getting a hold of this kind of adult entertainment, and they was calling this in to the FBI and the police and saying we think girls is dying.

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And then every time a girl mysteriously died, it had to be tied to death fetish.

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So he's like, I'm going to declare my name.

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Everybody signed releases, everybody knew what they was going to do.

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Nobody was hurting this film.

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We're going to show you that.

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So that's the long and short of Alicia Lockhart.

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You want to hear the rest, I'll point you to We Are Not Afraid.

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Alicia Lockhart was not raped.

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Chris Corner did not rape her.

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She lied about people being in the basement.

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I asked her this point, Blank.

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She actually gloated over this film like it was something that was big.

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And once it was found, she wanted to point everybody to it.

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And I asked you this question: if you were truly raped by somebody, do you want to see your rapist again?

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So I produced a podcast that LaDonna and Alicia was on before they renamed it and got rid of her and the whole nine.

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We did work on that together.

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She talked Ladonna Humphrey into doing Death Fetish, and she didn't want to get off it.

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If you ever meet Ladonna Humphrey, she is as Southern as Southern can be.

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May she forgive me, but there are some things that she don't know.

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Maybe she should, but I'm glad she doesn't when it comes to this stuff.

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She didn't know a lot about Death Fetish and a lot of the sexual stuff that goes in there because LaDonna lives this very wholesome life.

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She has her family deep in the woods of Arkansas.

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She's chilling with them.

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Her kids are well mannered.

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There are some things as adult I wish I did not know.

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So I'm glad some things she don't know.

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But there were some terms in there that she didn't like.

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There were some depictions that she didn't care for.

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And every time she went to Alicia Locker with that, she wanted to push the envelope.

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If you ever listened to her show beforehand, that's why Death Freddy stuck around so much because Alicia was the one writing all the episodes, and she's like, oh, we need to stay on this.

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We need to stay on this.

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LaDonna was feeling uncomfortable.

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So she convinces LaDonna to have Chris Corner on the show.

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I listened to her episode, folks.

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It was a mess.

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I was expecting her to be like, man, you raped me.

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You know what you did.

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How you gonna do this?

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People, here he is.

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She didn't do none of that.

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LaDonna was more mad than she was.

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She was giggling and cracking jokes, and because that guess they made fun of her breasts, and how did you like them now?

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And all this kind of thing.

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If you ever listened to the episode, you would be like, This, this, this girl really, it was she really?

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Chris Corner was very uncomfortable.

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But he said, and because they asked him, Why would you come on the show today?

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And I think this is before I was even producing the show.

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I don't have this episode because I have every other episode that LaDonna has ever done after I started producing the show.

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He said he wanted to come on because he wanted to make things right.

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Now, I've never heard this from a rapist in my life.

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What do you mean, make things right?

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He goes, I didn't do anything that I'm accused of.

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He let you know that.

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He goes, I didn't rape anybody.

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But if Alicia feels like I did something wrong, I want to make that right.

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I don't want to go away or go down somebody, some path of her feeling like I did something to her.

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Would you stalk her rapist?

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Because that's what she did.

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She tried to stalk him down.

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She tried to find out where he lived.

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She tried, I mean, even I think sent her boyfriend at the time or husband, whoever the hell he is, out to his house and said, Oh, this is where he lives.

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People, you gotta put two and two together in common sense.

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I promise you, Lisa Lacar was not raped.

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I have it on good authority by her own words.

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She lied and got strangled from publication, which I think, according to the publisher, was the only second book that he's ever had to pull from a lineup ever, because of lies.

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No lies on the Donna Humphrey's part.

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Every part in her book, every part that she wrote was true.

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But all the parts about the Belissa Witt thing and being connected and the watch and the rape had to be thrown out.

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So that cost Ledonna Humphrey a book.

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Pull for publication, gone.

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Erased, deleted.

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That's a little bit about her.

00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:57.920
So where does this troll come in?

00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:05.119
So Javier Labor spent a whole year just releasing episodes after episode after episode of lies.

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Said that she lied on Anthony Christopher, and Anthony Christopher was suing her for$3.5 million.

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Which that was true.

00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:15.039
He did try that.

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I will tell you right now, she did lose that case on a technicality, not anything that she did wrong.

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So I want you guys to remember that because they're gonna globally, oh, he won the case.

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He was right.

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No, he was not.

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I actually have an affidavit on this guy.

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I'm still trying to get somebody in Arkansas who cares to go investigate the judge and Anthony Christopher's lawyer because I believe everything in the affidavit.

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I can produce it for you if you like.

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I did a whole episode about it on We're Not Afraid called Houston We Have a Problem.

00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:57.519
In this affidavit that was taken by an attorney and a court reporter, this guy comes in and just lays out facts on Anthony Christopher.

00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:02.319
Anthony Christopher's mad because Ladonna Humphrey blew the whistle on him.

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In this affidavit, it stated to this guy that he was going to do everything he could, and I quote his words to bring the bitch down, unquote.

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He also admitted in this affidavit, according to this person, that he stole LaDonna Humphrey's cell phone.

00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.240
Now, Madonna Humphrey had text messages or whatever the judge wanted to see.

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She was ordered to turn the phone over.

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And the day before he's supposed to turn it over, somewhere in that vicinity, don't quote me on that, but I know I have my notes in front of me.

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Her phone gets stolen from her house while they look at them stealing.

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Somebody's on the car, they go out there, boom, somebody jumped out, run the purse, just took the phone out.

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According to the affidavit, it was Anthony Christopher who did it.

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I've also heard from other people that he's used this phone as a prop.

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He runs a gay nightclub, I think one of the only ones down in that part of Arkansas, and he does drag queen shows and skits.

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From what I've heard from several of the people that says that they go to that club and they want to be named, he's used this same phone in a skit that he portrays LaDonna Humphrey getting killed in.

00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:18.480
He says they went to get their toes done, and he was like, Yep, we're gonna get her all set up pretty much, and I'm gonna bring her down.

00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.400
And he asks, Well, how do you get away with all this?

00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:21.440
How do you get away with the fraud?

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And his answer was, I have more money than God.

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I have the affidavit to this day.

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I've sent it to Arkansas three times.

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I've heard nothing back.

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:34.960
Because if it's true, that means that the judge was paid to do what the judge did.

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Which is she put a gag order permanently on LaDonna Humphrey, which is why I had to jump to her defense because of the fact that she could not say anything publicly negatively about Anthony Christopher, or she goes to jail.

00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.759
So Javier Labor ends up calling me.

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And he wants to ask me all these questions.

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:56.400
First of all, he tries to fluff.

00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:58.880
David, yeah, my Javier Labor, man.

00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:00.799
I really enjoy your work.

00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.200
You know, true crime, all extraordinary people.

00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:04.799
What a great podcast.

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:06.559
What episode you listen to?

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When somebody writes me or calls me and says, hey man, your podcast is the bomb.

00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:12.880
I listen to it every week.

00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.359
My first question is, thank you for listening to the show.

00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.599
What was your favorite episode?

00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.400
I asked that question, two reasons.

00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:29.359
One, I want to gauge if you're lying to me, because if you ain't lying there and you listen to all my episodes or half of them or whatever, you definitely have one that stood out with you.

00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:34.480
Two, because I want to know how that episode is resonating with other people.

00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.000
Oh, okay, so if you tell me whatever episode, yeah, I like this episode.

00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:39.440
Okay, what made you like that episode?

00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.039
What was about the episode that you like?

00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:42.799
I like to engage my audience.

00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:44.319
You call and say your show is a bomb.

00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:45.359
I'm just gonna say I'm great.

00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:46.640
I don't think I'm all that.

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But there's always room for everybody to improve.

00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:50.559
So he was lying.

00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.480
He couldn't tell me one episode.

00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.359
He couldn't tell me how long the show's been on.

00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.599
He can't tell me the last thing he listens to.

00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.200
Because hey, oh, you listen to the show?

00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:00.319
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.319
What episode you listen to?

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How long ago?

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Couldn't tell me that.

00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:06.880
He wanted to get off that question real quick.

00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.759
So he starts him and Han, and I just say, Let's cut to the trace, bro.

00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.839
I already know what you're calling me for, and you're not going to get anything out of me because Ladonna Humphrey's done nothing.

00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.000
So he tries to throw all these accusations at LaDonna.

00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:22.480
So she's been accused of trying to burn down an ex-pastor's house who was an abusive dude.

00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.240
I got done on good authority.

00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:28.480
He's accusing her of embezzlement from her company.

00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:33.279
He's accusing her of everything except for being a child of God with no proof.

00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:45.839
Ends up bringing Mar Murray's family into it, who unfortunately is a girl that disappeared and still missing to this day because they had beef with one of her friends that she didn't really stand up for and she's sorry for that, and they've made up since then.

00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:47.359
He brought everybody in here.

00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.839
Lied and said she had a secret baby.

00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:51.200
Man, you name it.

00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:52.640
It was in this podcast.

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.960
I mean, for real, if I wasn't living it, I would think it was something that was scripted for Hollywood.

00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.799
And I told him, I said, Donald Humphrey did none of this stuff.

00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.400
I said, but I know Alicia Lockhart, I know what she's saying, I know what ain't true.

00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.559
I work deeper with this than anybody else.

00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:13.119
Now, he tried to get me in the pickle because I record all such types of things like this.

00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:18.720
I'm ready, I do podcasting for a limit, so I'm automatically ready to just hit a record button and go.

00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:24.480
Well, he had called me the day and he said, hey, can we just, can we get together?

00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.720
And he sent me a Riverside link.

00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:28.400
Well, I was supposed to be at home that day.

00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:33.039
So Riverside, which I'm using now, I could have just hit the record button and bam, I'm recording everything.

00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:36.880
And I've double recorded, recorded there, and I can record it on my Rollcaster.

00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:45.680
But when I told him that my wife was going into surgery and I needed to postpone it because I needed to get her to the doctor the next day.

00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:46.960
Oh, he jumped at that.

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:47.920
No, no, no, no.

00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:49.599
It'll only take a few minutes, bro.

00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.079
You know, maybe we can do this on the phone while you're in the car.

00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.559
Because he thought he had me at an impasse.

00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.240
So while I was sitting there, I'm like, how am I gonna do this?

00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:02.319
And my wife is like, part of my friend, she goes, I don't trust this asshole.

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That's like what my wife said.

00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.160
She said, So I'm gonna record it while you guys was talking.

00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:12.640
So my wife on her phone recorded the whole entire interview.

00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:18.240
And he was going on his 10 podcast, and I had, I had told her, before I say that, I told her.

00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.200
Then no one's not turned and said, if you go after her, I'm gonna go after you.

00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:22.799
I said, This is not a good look for you.

00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:24.480
You're doing somebody else's bidding.

00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:25.920
I said, I don't know you.

00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:26.720
And I didn't.

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:31.359
I said, so I didn't really know what his show was entailing.

00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.319
And then the name Frank Abignell came up to me.

00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:42.559
If you don't know who Frank Abignell is, Frank Abignell is the actual subject of why they made the movies Catch Me If You Can.

00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.599
He stalked Frank Abignell.

00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.319
He followed him places to speak.

00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:53.440
You would, I mean, he tried to sabotage him and mirage him because somehow he had press credentials.

00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.880
He got in the back, so as soon as Frank Abigail came out, he's ambushing him.

00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:58.559
You see, his hand was taking him away.

00:33:58.640 --> 00:33:59.839
I've talked to Frank Abignell.

00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:05.839
Frank Abigail pretty much said, in on certain terms, Javier Leva is full of it, but I go on with my life.

00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.159
I've been working with the same people for 20 plus years.

00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:09.360
I've done nothing that he said.

00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.400
He goes, I've not even seen the Catch Me If You Can movies.

00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.440
I've never given my permission for any of those movies to be made.

00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:21.760
He says, So Javier Leva is just one of those people who says he's a journalist, but he's not.

00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.519
He's basically selling his soul for money.

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.039
And that's what this became.

00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:35.519
So then when I start digging into that, man, there were other cases that he was causing legitimate everyday people just to go to jail.

00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:42.960
It's been rumored that on one of the cases he's been working with the prosecutors, and now these people was in all kinds of problems.

00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.840
So then he came after LaDonna.

00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.119
I said, if you come after her, I'm coming after you.

00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.320
Well, Ladonna was all massive stereotypes.

00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:56.320
You know, I'm like, any good journalist where they saw LaDonna is not gonna air this.

00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:57.440
Because I wouldn't.

00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.679
This is what real journalists would have done, people.

00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:07.599
I would have gotten his story, I would have called LaDonna and got her story, I would have got Alicia Lockhart, I would have got Anthony Christopher.

00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:09.920
There would have been all sides of the truth.

00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:19.679
And then at the end, when we all hear everybody's side, we can then determine who's telling the truth and who is not.

00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:25.360
But you didn't get that with Javier Oleva because all he was worried about is one-sidedness.

00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:27.599
He needed this to be sensational.

00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:40.800
Later down the line, we found information that proves that Javier Oleva, Alicia Lockhart, Anthony Christopher have been working on this plot for more than three months.

00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:46.480
They had already set it to release on the day that CrimeCon began, Believe in Jew.

00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:54.159
And so I told I said, I don't, I said, if he's any kind of journalist, you're not gonna put your integrity on the line if you have any for this.

00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.079
I says, but I looked at the guy's podcast.

00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.000
I don't know how much integrity he has.

00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.400
Maybe we should reach out to Frank Gabbydale just before we talk to him.

00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:10.320
I says, but just going off about what I do, I I couldn't have somebody on my show that's gonna make these accusations without having all the proof and all the truth.

00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:12.800
Well, I was wrong.

00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:18.639
Summer came around, he drops his very first episode out the box.

00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.559
And I'm like, I'll be dang.

00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:26.559
He, the first thing that I heard was he was running a trailer.

00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:35.440
And on the trailer, it was you heard a little bit of um Donna Humphrey in the interview that he did with her.

00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:41.360
You also heard um some of the other people talking about what damning she is.

00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:47.840
Dude, if you leave it to this podcast, Donna Humphrey should have been in jail 17 times over.

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:59.039
Because the things they're accusing her doing and how horrible she was and stealing, trying to take people's babies and exposing the babies.

00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.199
Dude, I'm sitting back here going, where's the criminal record?

00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:10.239
Because if you listen to this show, definitely some of the stuff that they're accusing her of, she would have gotten found out by now.

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.199
I've interviewed the people where she works, they told you to find out.

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.760
If anything that was going on, we would have turned her in ourselves.

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:22.559
The DA would have found out by now she's taking all this money from a nonprofit.

00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.360
People's tried to hide that for years and never got away with it.

00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.159
But they wanted to press on with that.

00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.519
My friend was in mass hysterics, and I said, I'm gonna do something about it.

00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:44.320
And what I was appalled was I was sitting back going, out of all the people that she knows, there's people that have a career right now because of her.

00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.639
I know her the least amount of time of everybody.

00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.239
Yet I'm the only one willing to come to her defense.

00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:54.400
Man, I reached out to people.

00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:56.800
Man, LaDonna Humphrey's in problems.

00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:57.920
You want to help?

00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.159
Here's what I got back a lot of times.

00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.960
Hey man, I'm sorry LaDonna's in problems.

00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:04.320
She's a very good person.

00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:08.079
This shouldn't be happening to her, but I can't go on no show.

00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:13.519
I can't say nothing because my career is at stake.

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:14.880
I work for the police.

00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:16.320
I'll get fired.

00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:20.480
I don't want to say anything because they're going to come after me.

00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.320
These are the things that I got, folks.

00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.320
I think I still have some of these emails.

00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.280
LaDonna's on the phone crying to me.

00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:31.039
She's like, man, this is gonna ruin our friendship.

00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:32.800
I know you're gonna leave.

00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:35.519
We ain't gonna be friends no more because of all of this.

00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:37.280
I really can't blame you.

00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.199
And I said, calm down.

00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.480
I said, that is not the kind of person that I am.

00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:50.559
And here's the one thing that I told LaDonna that I want all of you guys to remember, in case you do have a best friend out there somewhere or friend.

00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.079
I want you guys to remember this.

00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:56.239
Friendship is never proven in the good times.

00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:00.079
Friendship is proven in the bad times.

00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:09.840
And in the worst of those times when the chips is down and your friends getting accused of everything in the world, and they try to make it sound legitimate.

00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:21.599
And if you didn't know this person and you just stumbled upon this podcast, you'd be like looking for criminal records, which some of his fans did, and came back and said, if Lodonna did all this stuff, where is the criminal records at?

00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:26.559
This is when you find out if your friend is 10 toes deep.

00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:31.440
Because either they're gonna be like, I'm gonna defend you, or man, this is too much heat, I'm out.

00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.440
But here's what I did to LaDonna.

00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:34.800
I said, no, no, no.

00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.920
I says, but I have to treat you like everybody else.

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:39.440
You understand this, right?

00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.000
And she says, What do you mean?

00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:52.480
I says, Ledonna, what no matter what they call us, podcasters, journalists, I said, I guess you can call a journalist because a journalist is just somebody who researches and broadcasts the news.

00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.159
I said, You know, I run a platform that's all about truth.

00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:02.719
And I don't want anybody to come back on me and say, you just took her side because she's your friend.

00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:09.519
I said, of all the stuff they're saying about you, do you have any proof that rebuts any of this?

00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.239
And she says, I certainly do.

00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:20.000
People, not only did she send me the proof, she sent Javier Leva all the proof.

00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:24.320
She even CCD her attorney when she sent it.

00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.079
You know what Javier Leva said?

00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:28.559
This should prove to you he's not about the truth.

00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.639
I'm not using any of that.

00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.440
Especially when it came to the ex-pastor because he's dead.

00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.440
Oh, there was a bunch of stuff in there.

00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:37.360
I listen to any of that.

00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.519
I'm just gonna believe what they tell me.

00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:40.960
Where's the proof for that?

00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:46.480
Tried to say that she burned down the church or his home, I think it was.

00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:52.639
And then when they went and pulled RS records, they figured out that LaDonna wasn't even around when this fire went up.

00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:59.039
The reason why the fire went up is because this dude owes so much money in taxes, this is his only way out.

00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:06.559
And somehow LaDonna got accused of that years later when she was already gone.

00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.639
So she sent me all this proof.

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.440
And she says, You can call these people.

00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:12.400
They can voucher me.

00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.079
Dude, I had like lists of people.

00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.199
I'm writing emails, I'm I'm doing Facebook.

00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.360
You know, I'm Facebook media, I'm writing them on Facebook.

00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:23.360
If I have phone numbers, I'm calling.

00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:28.559
And I did run up against a couple of people that knew this pastor.

00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:37.199
Because the allegations against this pastor who I'm not gonna name because he is deceased, and I'm not gonna try to get anybody docs, and his family is still very much alive.

00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.159
But this wasn't the first time in which this guy had been accused of arson.

00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.440
He was accused of arson up here, and his daughter's name was all up in it.

00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:50.480
And when I contacted a couple of people, people that I was told, oh, these were real close to this pastor.

00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.320
They know here's what I got.

00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.199
I said, hey, there's LaDonna Humphrey's in problems.

00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.000
They're accusing her of burning down things.

00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:06.000
You know, there's been accusations made against this pastor that he actually took a member and, you know, abused her and whatever, smacked her, whatever the case is.

00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:07.199
Can you help me out?

00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:08.159
Here's what I got.

00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:09.599
I know of the case.

00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:10.960
I know about him.

00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:15.360
One guy even went as far to say, we all know Ladonna Humphrey didn't have anything to do with happening.

00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.039
He goes, but I can't talk on the pastor.

00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.039
Now remember, this dude's dead.

00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:20.239
He's gone.

00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.000
He can't do nothing to you.

00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.039
And these people still saying, I can't talk on him.

00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.000
My life would be destroyed, my life would be ruined.

00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.480
Please tell LaDonna Humphrey good luck.

00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.719
I'm sorry this has happened to her.

00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:40.320
I talked to people at Anthony Christopher's club who said, please get this guy.

00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:41.679
He's horrible.

00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.599
He's raped people here.

00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:45.679
He's killed somebody.

00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.719
Go listen to my podcast, y'all, because I exposed all of that.

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.719
There indeed is a police report of a guy that said Anthony Christopher raped him.

00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:53.920
Gave every detail.

00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:55.280
I covered all of it.

00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.599
The only reason why Anthony Christopher didn't go down.

00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.199
This is the luckiest dude in the world.

00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:05.840
Only reason why he didn't go down for this rape is because, well, according to the Day Society, the dude didn't do things right.

00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.320
He didn't get a hold to the cops for a couple of days.

00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.760
He had already went and took showers, so they couldn't get any forensics.

00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:16.079
So it became a his word against his word against Anthony's word type of thing.

00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:17.840
There's allegedly another report.

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:26.960
I reported on that, that somebody died in his club, and they think that he's responsible for that because the way that it happened, even though the guy filmed hit his head.

00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:27.920
It's all there.

00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:32.800
So the people that's trying to bring LaDonalds or Crook is crooks themselves.

00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:37.920
So back to what I was saying.

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:39.599
So out of all these people, I only wanted to defend.

00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.559
I released We are Not Afraid.

00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:47.599
I think it was two or three days after he released his episode.

00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:49.519
I released a trailer.

00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:54.079
I think on like the 5th or the 6th.

00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:58.880
And my first episode was June 7th, 2024.

00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.559
Weekly after that, I'm releasing all these episodes.

00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:06.159
This is basically rebutting everything that he's saying on his.

00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:11.760
I have several different interviews from people unlike Javier Leva.

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:15.119
Here's another thing that a good journalist does.

00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.679
They go to where the story is.

00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:29.519
So if there's somebody that you need to talk to, if there's somebody that has information, you need to go there.

00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:33.360
I went to Arkansas for this sole purpose last year.

00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.599
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I wanted to meet my girl, wanted to meet LaDonna Humphrey.

00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.360
You know, I want to let her know I'm with her.

00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:41.360
We know that was gonna happen.

00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:45.440
Which truth of where I went, me and my family all went, we stayed in her house.

00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.119
Now answer this question, people.

00:44:47.599 --> 00:45:00.320
I know some of y'all don't know me well, but some of y'all that's been with me for the couple of years that this show's been on, if you came up from other shows, if you know me personally, you know the one thing I'm not gonna do is put my family in harm's way.

00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:12.960
If I had any inkling that Ladonna Humphrey was this horrible person and she's killing folks like they say she is, yeah, I mean, I know this sounds comical, but these are the things they're saying.

00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:19.840
You know, Lisa's been in her house and she was this person named Fetish Master that was spoofing her.

00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:25.280
And even though the lover, the living room is so small, if you look over somebody's shoulder, you see everything they're doing.

00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.159
Do you think I would take my family?

00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:33.360
Even as much as they want to go, I'd be like, you gotta sit this one out, bro, because I don't know.

00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:40.239
I think LaDonna's kind of suspicious, all this stuff can't be, you know, they say it ain't true, but I need to go on this one alone.

00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.599
Now, if I don't come back, here's the address where I'm at.

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:45.280
I'll tell you as soon as I get there.

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:46.400
No, none of that happened.

00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:50.159
As soon as I say I'm going to Arkansas, my family, oh my gosh, can't we go?

00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.199
I'm like, I'm not going for a retreat.

00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:54.400
This is kind of a business call.

00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.840
LaDonna's like, just bring everybody, you know, there'll be things to do here.

00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:59.920
My kids is here, your kids somebody play with.

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:05.519
Just bring so my whole family and I went to Arkansas for almost two weeks.

00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:11.119
Went and interviewed the place, the people where she works, posted that.

00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:28.239
Then I told Javier Oleva, I said, if you try to lie on me, because he wanted to say on his podcast that I had told him that LaDonna Humphrey was suicidal over this and that she may take her life.

00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.639
But I had made him a promise before then.

00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:41.119
I said, if you decide to go and lie on your podcast about my interview and what I said, I would post the whole thing.

00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:56.480
Because I just need to let you know, even though I don't got to tell you this, because of the fact that you live in a one-party state, and the law only goes to the state in which the person who initiates the call is.

00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:00.880
So he initiated the call from North Carolina, which is a one-party state.

00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.519
So I did not have to disclose to him that I was recording.

00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:10.400
If I initiated the call from California, I'm in a two-party state, so I'd have to tell him you are being recorded and gave him the option to hang up the phone.

00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:18.480
But I said, I don't gotta tell you this because you're in a one-party state, but I recorded everything that you said and I said, and I released the whole thing.

00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.039
Well, Javier Labor thought that I was lying.

00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:30.400
So episode six, his titled Javier You Need to Tell the Truth, and that's when I released my whole entire interview with him.

00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.840
Now, you would think after all this stuff and break it down, people would think that he's lying.

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.599
But no, they held on, they held on to him like he was a cult leader.

00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:39.920
Which leads me to the last part of this.

00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.480
Again, if you guys want to hear this whole story in detail, I will drop you a link to We Are Not Afraid.

00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.719
It's called We Are Not Afraid Exposing the Witch Hunt of Laudonna Humphrey.

00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:50.320
That was the name of the whole season.

00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:58.159
It was one season I was going to be done with the podcast, and I'll tell you when I ended it, why I ended it, and no one ever knows.

00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.400
Maybe it aces up somebody's sleeve.

00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.920
And let me get to the reason why this is made about the troll.

00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:09.119
So I had to tell you all of that so that what I'm about to tell you now makes some sense.

00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:24.480
So today I contacted somebody who's been on my show who's become a friend of mine to let this person know that I'm feeling a lot better and uh I'll be getting back to work here shortly, and that being sick with the flu and having no voice really sucked, right?

00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.559
In the middle of this conversation, I have to laugh because it's just this comical.

00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:36.800
He says to me, uh, I think I may have heard from one of your trolls.

00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.119
And I'm like, oh my gosh, really?

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.079
So, you know, I'm like, you know, do tell.

00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:48.880
So basically he tells me, he says, he got the weirdest email, and it's from one of my haters, and he says, You need to see this.

00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:54.559
He goes, he don't know, but he signed it using a fake name.

00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.519
And I said, I know who that is.

00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.320
That ain't nobody but Marty.

00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:06.159
Now, Marty is so dumb that he doesn't know what name he wishes to use.

00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:11.760
We're digging into this now, but for all intents and purposes, we believe his real name is Chris Fike.

00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:24.000
Now, the reason I go ahead and tell you that is because on every single thing he trolls me on when he follows me from podcasts up to Parkinson episode, leaving all these derogatory comments.

00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:31.119
That's why you saw my rating for this show drop because it ain't nobody but them and what we call the cult followers of Javi or Leva.

00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.920
He always does it up underneath Chris Fike.

00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:43.920
However, when he signs the email, and when he signs up on some of these forums, he tells you his name is Marty Bass.

00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:48.960
This dude has been following me for a long period of time.

00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:54.639
And I'm gonna read you his email right now because this is gonna tell you why he's following me, and I'll give you context into it.

00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:57.920
And then I'll tell you what we're gonna do about Brother Marty.

00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:07.679
Because, see, the fact of the matter is, is what he wrote in this email is defamatory, and I can sue him, and I'm looking into that this week.

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:21.840
Because the moment that I go to sue him, we would definitely find out if his name is Chris Fike or Marty Bass, because my lawyer can then subpoena the records from Gmail to find out exactly who Chris Fike is.

00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:36.079
And if he has used a face name beyond that, he would still get traced because then you can send another subpoena saying that they need to have the IP address of where this person is, and that should lead you right to where his house is.

00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.039
But let's get what this is.

00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:40.239
So my friend sent it to me.

00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.159
He said, Bro, they say you ain't working if you don't have haters.

00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:48.480
Laugh out loud, he says, and he uses the fake name too.

00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:53.599
So here is what Chris Fike, aka Marty Bass wrote.

00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.880
Pretend, Carn Artist Podcast.

00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:05.360
David McClem threatened to knock on my door and physically attack me on his We Are Not Afraid podcast.

00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.519
I reported it to at Spreaker.

00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:26.079
And then he cuts it off because he puts a link to a Google Share account that's on there, which I think is supposed to rope you into this message on Pretend Podcast that Javier O'Lever posted well over 69 weeks ago, right?

00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:30.320
He says David threatened to physically assault Javier O'Lever from the Pretend Podcast.

00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:38.880
After recording almost 10 episodes of David's distinguished podcast covering the Deanna Stevenson case and featuring her cousin Kaya Penfield, there was a falling out.

00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:48.239
He pulled the episodes, he which he can't spell, he says which, but it's W-H-I-C-K-Wick, which you can still find online if you look hard enough.

00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:53.760
And then trash Kaya, and because of the falling out, he completely changed his perspective on his case.

00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:56.480
No new facts, just changed feelings.

00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:02.320
David also had a falling out with Alicia Lockhart, another subject who he produced a podcast for.

00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:04.320
She is supposedly a rape victim.

00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:05.679
Now, here's the thing.

00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:10.079
He is gonna accuse me of having not supporting a rape victim, but he don't even know.

00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:16.800
Because he says she is supposedly a rape victim, which tells you that he knows that she ain't one neither.

00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:17.679
Because that was me.

00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:19.920
I was like, she is a rape victim.

00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:23.119
He says she is supposedly a rape victim.

00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.400
Sometimes people, you gotta be with people's people's writing.

00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:36.000
I continue, he believed her until the fallout, then decided to not only discount her story, he recently supported, he had the alleged rapist on one of his mini shows.

00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:40.639
And when the guy denied the rape, he instantly believed him and trashed her.

00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:46.239
He recently got fired from an Apple subsidiary and instantly threw the race card.

00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:57.519
Even or every person he has, every person he has any collaboration with, besides Adono Humphrey, he has a very messy breakup and trashes them, every single one.

00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:59.760
He's on wife number five.

00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:01.840
Please don't believe one word I say.

00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.880
Talk me about crazy internet troll Marty Bass.

00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.960
Now he's telling you, ain't none of this true by what he just said.

00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:10.559
Please don't take my word for it.

00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:16.000
But he continues, but you can verify everything I said via the Pretend Podcast.

00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:17.920
Via the Pretend Podcast.

00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:22.719
The liars that's been lying on everybody for a year, that's the source you give.

00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.000
You didn't say, here's some court documents.

00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:28.079
You didn't say contact this person.

00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.679
You didn't say, man, I know this to be fact because I got these emails.

00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:37.280
He says, you can verify everything I said via the Pretend Podcast.

00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:39.519
Are you guys laughing as hard as I am?

00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:49.920
So you want to send the people to the liar who's lying on me, and none of this stuff he's talking about is even there.

00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:53.039
It's not discussed how many times I was married.

00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.760
They found it out from when I told you guys my life story.

00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:02.400
I told you none of this dude can do to hurt me because I've told you my whole life story is on the internet to help people.

00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:05.519
But he sends you to the liars.

00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:06.480
Ain't that funny?

00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:12.320
He says several episodes of David's own podcast where he addresses everything I mentioned and put his spin on it.

00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:14.880
Also, LaDonna Humphrey Reddit page.

00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:21.440
His shows will demonstrate how disconnected he is to reality, how petty he is and vindictive he is.

00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:29.840
In December, he literally dropped an entire country artificial intelligence album dissing Javier Laver, Lockhart, and the internet trolls on Spotify.

00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:31.920
Just trying to give you a heads up.

00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:37.039
If his pattern remains consistent in a year you will wish you never heard his name.

00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:38.960
Either way, good luck, Marty Bass.

00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.679
Well, let's tell you the only thing that he kind of told you a half-truth about.

00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.519
And I told you about this at the end of the year.

00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:51.599
Yes, I produced a whole album called The Witch Hunt of Lanny Hughes.

00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:56.639
Yes, I use artificial intelligence to sing it, which I told you all of that.

00:54:56.880 --> 00:55:00.239
And yes, every single word of that album I wrote.

00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.119
And yes, I'm working on part two.

00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:04.320
But guess what?

00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:06.719
He just gave me the right to do now.

00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.320
He did the one thing I did not do on purpose.

00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:13.440
If you go and listen, which I'm gonna give you guys a little sample at the end of this.

00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:18.079
So if you, if you like country music, want to hear something that I actually wrote, yes, I have an AI voice.

00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:24.960
If you go back and listen to my episode, I think it's called Music in the AI at the end of the year, you understand why I did the way I did it.

00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:26.559
Yes, I didn't lie to you.

00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.360
Yes, uh AI voice sung it.

00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:30.880
I have all of the stems.

00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:35.519
My daughter's walking around here right now practicing some of these songs to go sing a karaoke.

00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:39.840
So a real band can do this, but I don't have real band money.

00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:42.239
Okay, so I wanted to get this out.

00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:46.719
I want to write it, and I said, hey, AI can do it, and I can publish it.

00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:47.360
Here you go.

00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:52.960
Didn't publish it for money, and it wasn't a diss album, it was an album of truth.

00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:57.920
And I think I told the episode that I sat down and said, What is the one way I can tell my truth in this?

00:55:58.079 --> 00:55:59.840
Well, I'm a musician at heart, bro.

00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:03.360
So I did what every other musician and every author in the world does.

00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:04.639
I wrote about it.

00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.519
So, yes, it talks about the whole thing.

00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.880
Yes, you get the full story in song.

00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:17.360
And if you think, if you listen to the first one, if you think that one's good, wait till you hear number two.

00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.000
Because the first one is all a song about Marty Bass.

00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.639
So that's the one thing he told partly truth.

00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:32.639
I didn't do it as a as this track, and he made it sound like that I lied to y'all and came out and said, hey man, I wrote this and sung it.

00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:38.880
Okay, if you go to my Spotify page for this album, maybe I'll link that down below, you see it.

00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:41.599
The name on the album isn't even mine.

00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.800
The name of the singer is Sable Heart.

00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:54.079
And then if you look, there's a profile for Sable Heart, and it says, Sable Heart is artificial intelligence or something of that nature.

00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:58.320
I wrote that every word was written by a human, they used divorce.

00:56:58.480 --> 00:56:59.280
Oh, nine.

00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:03.199
He's trying to make it sound like I just came and told y'all reduced the album, didn't say any of that.

00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:04.239
Told you guys all of that.

00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:09.599
Now, let's talk about a couple things he said in here that we need to tear down real quick, and then I'll be done.

00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:11.119
The Deanna Stevenson case.

00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.519
Deanna's cousin, Kaya Pinfield.

00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:16.639
So as I was saying, now he's giving me the right to dox everybody.

00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:24.079
If you listen to that whole entire album, I said the names have been changed to protect the innocent, the guilty, and the dumb.

00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.239
I gave everybody fake names in that album for this reason.

00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:41.679
But now that now that Marty has written to my friend and told him directly, in December, he literally dropped an entire country artificial intelligence album dissing Javier Leva, Lockhart, and the Internet Trolls.

00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.079
Now I have free liberty to release all their names.

00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:48.320
Yes, Jerry Jones is Javier Leva in my songs.

00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:54.400
I'm sure you can figure out who Alicia Lockhart is and a whole bunch of other people.

00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:56.159
But yes, and he wants to put that out there.

00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.800
He just told you, well, yeah, the whole album's about him.

00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:04.880
I said it was based on a true story of what happened one summer in 2024.

00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.000
Didn't go into any other detail, but he gave me that right.

00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:09.119
So thank you, Marty.

00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:17.599
So when I am now producing my second album, I'll be sure to use everybody's name because you've already doxed everybody in here.

00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.320
So back to the so let's take on a couple of things, we'd be out of here.

00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:28.079
Deanna Stevenson's case, her cousin Kaya Penfield reached out to me, not the other way around.

00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:33.840
She reached out to me on PodMatch, crying that nobody else wanted to do her cousin's case.

00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:39.440
Her cousin was in basically a lesbian triangle, romantically.

00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:47.519
She had a wife, and then there was a wife who had a girlfriend, and Deanna gets drunk one night, ends up at this house, and she ends up dead.

00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.480
She said that no one else would take the case.

00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:55.280
Everybody else was telling her they didn't have time to take the case or they just didn't want to do it.

00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:00.559
And she wanted some help because nobody was believing anything she was saying because she was a family member.

00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:03.039
This is what me and LaDonna Humphrey do.

00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.159
So when she contacted me, I opened up the full door.

00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:10.559
I said, I'll be more than happy to feature your case on my show.

00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.280
I said, but I have a network that we can work around.

00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:19.119
I said, I have another podcast called Distinguished with my part LaDonna Humphrey, and this is what that podcast is built for.

00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:27.119
So not only did we put her on my show, we also put her on me and LaDonna's show extinguished, and we took weeks to do this.

00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:34.639
She couldn't afford anything, meaning that she needed to get all the transcripts, she needed to get all of the police reports.

00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:35.920
She couldn't afford that.

00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:47.199
So she went crying to some other podcaster who said, Well, we can't do the case, we don't got time, but we'll give you the money to get all these things that you should have.

00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:51.599
I asked her point blank on the episode, how much did that cost?

00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:52.719
And she says, a lot.

00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.000
And I says, 500.

00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:55.119
She says, way more than that.

00:59:55.199 --> 01:00:00.159
So people, we're probably talking in the thousands, maybe a couple of thousands to get the information she has.

01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:07.280
I have all of the case files from Deanna Stevenson's case to this day, because she sent me all of them.

01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:16.480
So if you go down the line, he says that we had a falling out in the case, and I changed my position.

01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:17.519
No, I didn't.

01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:22.000
I always said who I thought killed, Deanna Stevenson.

01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:26.880
Problem is, is Marty, who is a wannabe podcaster, decided to challenge me and LaDonna.

01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:28.639
I think I still have some of that somewhere.

01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:30.639
And said, Well, how do I know they killed her?

01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.800
And how can I say that?

01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:38.000
And because he was really on the side of the wife and the girlfriend.

01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.719
Even though there were text messages that proves that there was some type of a setup.

01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:48.079
There was text messages that were sent to us on the last day before she was killed.

01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:50.559
There was friction text messages.

01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:53.199
There was people pulling out guns.

01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:59.599
There was the mom that we believe lied and said she was the one that shot Deanna Stevenson.

01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:08.239
If you see the crime scene photos like me and LaDonna have and studied them, you would see that the bullet wounds isn't even right.

01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:18.719
When they came back to get the girlfriend and the wife or whatever, according to Kaya, I haven't seen it yet, but I do know from some things they was all relaxed.

01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.079
I did to get one video from her on a police camera where they would relax.

01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.719
They wasn't fretting, none of that.

01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:37.360
So, yes, I had pretty much concluded that somebody in that house had killed Deanna Stevenson, and it wasn't the mom that was there, who they said was the one that took the gun and shot.

01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:47.440
Because why would you go get your gun the minute someone knocked on the door when you know this person is coming and Deanna Stevenson was drunk?

01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:53.199
The only thing she did wrong was she was filthy drunk.

01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:59.360
And if one thing is for sure, the police is never around when you need them.

01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:09.119
Because the police was there and would have stopped Deanna Stevenson that night and put her under arrest for DUI, she would probably still be beating today.

01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:10.719
It would have cost her job.

01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:23.840
Because I guess the one thing I forgot to tell y'all is not only was this a lesbian love triangle, it was a lesbian love triangle between three people that's all in law enforcement, and one either retired or got booted from it.

01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:30.639
But because I didn't take Marty's stance on the case, and he was trolling Kaya.

01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:40.559
See, Kaya should be careful because I have every text message she ever sent me, I have every email, and I have all the emails where she's telling me that Marty is the troll.

01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:49.920
Marty is a wannabe podcaster that follows all of the true crime YouTubers or podcasters around.

01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:52.400
He creates nothing but havoc.

01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:56.480
He trolls everybody because he wishes he could do what they do, but he can't.

01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:59.920
All of this I have in text messages from Kyle Pinfield.

01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.079
He had been trolling her for a long time since this case started.

01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.000
So, no, I never changed my facts.

01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:09.760
He was just out of source because I didn't agree with him.

01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:14.880
Then he brings up Alicia Lockhart, another subject who he produced a podcast for.

01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.400
I never produced a podcast for Alicia Lockhart.

01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:23.519
I produced a podcast for Alicia Lockhart and LaDonna Humphrey.

01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.559
I did it as a favor to LaDonna Humphrey.

01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.280
So Alicia Lockhart could have kicked rocks.

01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:34.880
She is supposedly a rape victim, and I believed her until the fallout.

01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:36.800
Well, I told you I don't believe her anymore.

01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:38.880
Go back and listen to what I said earlier.

01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:45.599
Then decided to not only discount her story, he originally supported it, he had the alleged rapist on one of his mini shows.

01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:48.480
And when the guy denied the rape, he instantly believed him and trashed her.

01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:50.000
I didn't instantly believe him.

01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:55.679
Go to We're Not Afraid and listen to the episode where I actually did my interview with Chris Corner.

01:03:57.519 --> 01:03:58.800
I asked him for everything.

01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:00.719
He tells you what he's been through, Alicia Lockhart.

01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:02.079
He tells you everything that's there.

01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:03.360
He was very believable.

01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:11.679
And not only did I believe him, but unlike Javier Leva, I did my due diligence and I followed up on everything he told me.

01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.679
And it pointed to her not being a rape.

01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:20.159
Including, if you go listen to this episode, he tells you this is not the only time that Alicia Lockhart shot with him.

01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.840
He admitted that he was flirtatious with her.

01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:27.360
I just want to point this out so you can see where this is not going.

01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.880
He admitted that yes, he was flirtatious with her.

01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:33.440
He never touched her unless he had permission.

01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:38.559
He says, but in the industry I'm in, we're all touchy philly anyway.

01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:45.280
Which that's probably true because if you go to some theaters, they tell you all the theory people is touchy philly.

01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.599
He never denied any of that.

01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:58.320
When he tells me that there's other films that he did with Alicia, he tells you the story of how Alicia needed her car to be fixed, and she came to him asking, Do you have any clients?

01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:01.280
Can I do some feet picks or can I do this and other thing?

01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:03.440
Yeah guys, gotta listen to the episode.

01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.199
I just, I'm not Javi or Lever.

01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:09.119
I don't just shoot things and put them up here just for entertainment.

01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:14.079
What I do here in True Crime is serious, and when it involves a friend of mine is even more serious.

01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:15.920
Go listen to the show.

01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:23.519
Then he says, I recently got fired from an Apple subsidiary and instantly threw the race card.

01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:24.880
That's funny.

01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:28.079
I didn't get fired from an Apple subsidiary.

01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:30.800
I didn't work for a subsidiary.

01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:33.760
I worked for Apple directly.

01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:35.360
Let me tell you where that's at.

01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:35.840
Yes.

01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:39.679
Now, of course, LaDonna was alarmed and says, well, where did he get that from?

01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:48.880
Well, as you guys probably know, I produced a whole episode on my recent firing from Apple Corporation.

01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:58.239
And I told you the reason why I did that was that there's just some things that needs to be put out in the public of why things go.

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.400
And then I'll take The other reason I did is because which we're gonna do this in a minute.

01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:09.360
If you Google me, it'll change every once in the blue moon as to who I am or it'll give you extra information.

01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:13.039
Because, like we all know, guys scrapes everything.

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So in September 10th of 2025, I did do an episode called Targeted and Terminated My Apple Story.

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That was a two-hour and 20-minute episode because I had to give you the whole background.

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So the Shep Marty bass up, let's tell you what's really going on with it and why I can't say a whole ton about it.

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Yes, in fact, I was targeted.

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If you guys know anything about me, the race card is the last thing I play.

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I've even told you on episodes that I've shot that deals directly with race.

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Somebody getting killed, somebody you know getting hurt, whatever that deals with race.

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I've already told you what.

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I don't jump to the race card right away.

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I remove all signs of race until I can't deny that it was a racial issue.

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I didn't instantly throw the rape card, I sued Apple.

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They've already lost one.

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And there's another one right now that I can't talk about, but it's still ongoing.

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If you go listen to that episode, it tells you exactly why I was fired from Apple.

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And yes, I will stand by that.

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I was targeted.

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Now I want you guys to understand this.

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I don't necessarily have to say race, even though it was part of a racial issue.

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But you guys need to understand when you come to racial things, there are certain things that lawyers hold on to if certain situations happen.

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There's a lot of questions you get asked about the structure of the company, the team you worked on, and how many people look like you.

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So when I'm the only one that's instructed to do one set of rules from everybody else, and the targeting is evident, you're not hiding it, and the whole team can figure it out, and you're the only black person on the crew.

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What do you think people's gonna jump through?

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And long before I can say it, other people said it long before me.

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So there you have it.

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Again, he's trying to embarrass me in the whole nine, got a better job now.

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I do some meaningful work out of retail, thank God.

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But here's where we are.

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So again, this should tell you that he's lying.

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I was fired from an Apple subsidiary.

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I worked for Apple directly.

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And here's another thing before we get off that move to the next thing.

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Yeah, I was just fired.

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I worked there for eight years.

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No disciplinary action.

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Was the top salesman a couple of years in a row.

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Straight.

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I set records that will never be broken because the fact that the company has now gone a different direction.

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So my job that I had before, that particular position was terminated into the new one that I went into.

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When I turned out in to my attorney, what'd they say?

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Well, we gotta dig into that.

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Eight years, no literary actions, no write-ups, no nothing.

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You a squeaky, clean employee.

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There's gotta be a problem here.

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So if you want to hear more about that, like I said, I recorded a whole entire episode back in September, targeted and terminated my Apple story.

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That's where Marty Bass got that from.

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On wife number five.

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Yes, sir, I am.

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I've told you guys that before.

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I've told you the reason why I've been married so many times.

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And what he fails to tell you is, uh, well, I've been married to number five now for 23 years.

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Here's the other thing Marty Bass forgot to tell you.

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He's targeted my wife.

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He's gone to her Facebook and stole her pictures and put her up on his profile in the Reddit thread.

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He's written me and tried to taunt me with that by saying, kiss number five for me.

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He's made derogatory statements at my wife because he's cowardly enough to know that I'm not going to see him.

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But I'll say right here, send the police.

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If I ever see him, I will put my hands on him.

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You don't mess with a man's wife.

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But because they're keyboard warriors and they sit behind a keyboard and they know that people can't find them in their little basement where he's down there doing anything that he sees fit to, and he can just type it, he knows that he can get hands put on him.

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But when you mess with my wife and my children, I will give up my life.

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And that's why I will never see any of these punks.

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They can walk right by me since I don't know what they look like, and I will never know it's them.

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You think they're gonna come tap me on the shoulder?

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Yeah, I'm Marty Bass.

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No, because he would get punched dead in his face.

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Take that to the police if you want to, I don't care.

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But if I ever see Marty Bass, any of these other characters, it's not gonna be a good day for them.

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I promise you that.

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He tells you, don't believe a word that he's saying, that he wants you to go to the very liars that he's backing up of the pretend podcast.

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He says, several episodes of my podcast, I addressed everything I mentioned and put his spin on it.

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I didn't put no spin on it.

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Told you guys 100% truth.

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I can prove everything I've said.

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Can he?

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Can Javier Oleva?

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Nope.

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The LaDonna Humphrey Reddit page that he's talking about?

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If y'all ever seen that page, y'all would know exactly where he's coming from.

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Oh, there's memes of me.

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There's sexual memes of me and LaDonna.

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Oh, yeah, that was a big fixation for them.

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They were accusing me of going down to Arkansas to have sex with LaDonna, that I was gonna uh divorce my wife and LaDonna's gonna become wife number six.

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I can't make this stuff up, people.

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When I was in Arkansas with my wife, they was writing that I was probably down there getting it on with LaDonna.

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Yeah, I'm really sure that my wife and her husband are gonna allow that.

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We are friends, always been friends.

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I love her family to death.

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I gained a new family.

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I heard that her husband don't like to talk to a lot of people, but he did talk to me when I was there.

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We had very good conversations.

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Found out some things about this gentleman that I never would have found out before.

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One of them is he loves to read.

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I mean, you should see the collection this dude has.

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My show will demonstrate how disconnected I am to reality and how petty he is and vindictive.

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Really?

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If I took the time to read you guys the emails that I get from people that want to come on my show, that would prove all of that wrong.

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Matter of fact, I've been told by people that they want to come on my show because of the realness of it, because of how I handle stuff, because of the questions that I do ask, and that it seems like that I do care about what I'm doing.

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You can tell that from the caliper of guests that I get.

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And I'm gonna tell you this again.

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I don't go after them, I don't have time to go after them.

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They they they come to me, and I'm I'm very, very, very, very grateful that I find these guests or these guests find me.

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And I always ask, what made them put on my podcast?

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And these are the things that I hear.

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I have an author that I interviewed last year.

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He wants to come back on the show to tackle another case because he enjoyed the way that I did the show, and he liked the questions that I asked, and he could tell that I really cared about what I was doing and saying, and I wasn't just doing it for entertainment purposes.

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So that blows Marty Badge out of the water right there.

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Then he then he throws out there that everybody that I collaborate with, other than LaDonna, it turns messy.

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Who is this?

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I want to know who this is.

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Who's everybody else I collaborate with?

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The main person I collaborate with is LaDonna Humphrey.

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I don't put my name on everybody.

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You can these days.

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So I'm very careful who I collaborate with.

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But I want to know where that came from.

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If he's talking about my podcast that they were crying, my daughter decided that she wanted to go and do other things.

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She's contacted me several times about doing other podcasts on TV shows that we watched.

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We didn't end it because of the fact that we was at odds or we had a messy breakup.

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She decided she wanna go do her book thing.

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I said, okay, then what you want to do?

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More power to you, I will carry this on.

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You know the rest.

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In December, I literally dropped a country album.

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Yes, I'm gonna give you one of those songs tonight.

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But I want you to guys to know, since she thinks she's found a gold mine.

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If you was to Google me, what it would say.

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If you Google me and put me in AI mode, here's what it says.

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David McClam is a podcast host, startup coach, and advocate for male survivors of domestic abuse.

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He is primarily known for his work in the true crime genre and his advocacy based on his personal experiences.

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And then it tells you where they get some of these things from.

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So, kind of skimmed that from PodMat, some other stuff.

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Says professional roles, podcast host.

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He hosts the podcast True Crime Models and Storinary People, formerly True Crime and Authors, which explores criminal cases and features interviews with writers.

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He previously hosted the show A Day with Crime for four years.

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Startup Coach, McClane works as a podcast startup coach, advising new creators on technical production, workflow, and niche selection.

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Then it says advocacy in public life, domestic abuse survivor.

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He frequently shares his story as a two-time survivor of domestic abuse, experiencing it first from a parent as a child and later from a partner as an adult.

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He uses his platform to highlight that domestic abuse happens to men and to combat the isolation many male survivors feel.

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Mental health and resilience.

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McClam speaks on overcoming trauma through faith and healing and emphasizes the importance of community support.

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Controversies.

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Ludonna Humphrey Association.

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McClam has been identified as a vocal supporter of author and podcaster Logana Humphrey.

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He launched the We Are Not Afraid podcast to defend her against various allegations, though this show was reportedly removed by hosting providers following complaints about his content and tactics.

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Now I asked it, I says, you because it says ask anything.

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I says, you do know that David McLaren's podcast was not removed, right?

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Here's what it came back with.

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Actually, there has been significant confusion regarding the status of David McLaren's podcast.

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While some of his shows remain active or have recently concluded at least one of his specific projects faced a documented removal by a hosting provider.

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Here is a breakdown of his current podcasting presence as of early 2026.

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We're not afraid, this podcast launched as a rebuttal to accusations against Ladonna Humphrey was reported by critics to have been removed by his hosting provider in late 2024, following controversial content, including personal threats made on air.

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However, the show has continued to appear on platforms like Apple Podcasts, with episodes continuing through late 2025.

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TrueCon All the Story People, this remains active with recent episodes uploaded as week as recently as February 2026, discussing new season plans and audiobook news.

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Extinguished, a long-form series co-hosted with Donald Humphrey focused on missing and murdered indigenous women.

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It released episodes through late 2025.

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A Day with Crime Disappears to be an older project that concluded its run around 2022.

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In a December 2025 interview for the My Podcast Story series, McClam discussed the lessons learned from both starting and ending various podcasts over his decade-long career.

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That's what you give you Google Me.

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Now I want to clarify two things.

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Extinguished is still very much a thing.

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We're moving it to different platforms.

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It will be back.

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However, we're not afraid people are still going.

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So AI is wrong.

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But it told you that from various people that it said that I had concluded.

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No.

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He tried to take me down.

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I told you that whole episode, there's an episode on TrueCommoners, I'll talk about that.

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Yes, I moved from Speaker.

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Speaker never took my podcast down.

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I moved.

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It was time, and I went to a new host for that one called Captivate.

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And just like little cockroaches, I had already written Captivate and said, hey, you're going to get an email as soon as they find out I'm here for a guy named Javier Lever.

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Here's what it's going to tell you.

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Sure enough, I get an email the day after I moved my podcast there.

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And he said, Do you have the episode in question?

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I said, I have the episode.

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I said, it's been taken down because it was so horribly bad I had to reshoot it.

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I said, but I can send it to you.

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Because he called, he said everything from my podcast was hate speech, and I threatened to come beat him up, and I was gonna kill him, and I threatened to send the church down to um Anthony Christopher's nightclub that was going to kill all the drag queens.

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This is what he told his people.

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I said, here's the episode.

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I said, Bertamore, here's the transcript.

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They wrote back to Hobby O'Leaving and said, kick rocks.

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Here we go again, Lies on We Are Not Afraid podcast deals with all of that.

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I told you I have a I have an episode about everything.

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So, in conclusion, I wanted to get ahead of this just because he wants to write people.

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Marty Bass People is a crow.

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I just gave you the whole story.

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I can prove everything that I've said.

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If you are someone that's been on my show and he's writing to you, feel free to let me know that.

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Because all this is gonna do is go into a file, and if it is something that is suable, we will be suing them.

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They have gone to all my podcasts and rated me very low stars, which is why you saw the stars in this podcast drop.

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And right now, we're not afraid carries a 1.2 rating because of that.

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And if you look at all the comments that is there, it's all from the trolls.

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They all make no sense.

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Trash, I'm embarrassing myself, nails on the talkboard, I'm a horrible podcaster, all of that is why that is there.

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Matter of fact, Javier Labor's in the campaign saying, go and mark this down negative one stars and then mark mine five stars so he can go up.

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He put things behind a paywall, which a lot of his people left.

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Javier O'Ver is a crook.

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Marty is one of his followers.

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So is Anthony Christopher.

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So I will leave you the link to We Are Not Afraid, and you can listen to that.

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I also will leave you the link to The Witch Hunt of Landing Hughes.

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But as a treat going out, you won't hear the regular outro because I'm gonna leave you with this song.

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Since Marty Bass wants to jump into all of this and say, Oh, he dropped the album.

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I know I told you guys about it, but I never introduced you to the album.

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And who knows at a later date I may drop what my new single is going to be because I've already written it and it is entitled You Got My Attention.

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The song I'm gonna share with you is based exactly on what Marty Bass just said.

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It was episode eight, and it's called Caught in a Lie.

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And it talks all about that incident when Javi Olivia went on his Twitter page, whatever it was, Instagram, and was talking about that he came from the police department.

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And you can see the police department in his background, right?

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Oh, I just came from the police department, I just filed a complaint a criminal complaint against David McClam.

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He threatened to come to my home in Arkans in North Carolina and beat my ass.

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And I wrote to his podcast host and told him to take down his show, and they sure did.

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This is what it says on this whole thing.

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And he lied.

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You hear Lion there says that when I called the police department, that basically they didn't have the report.

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They didn't know his name.

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Nobody ever called him.

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I also talked about in that song how he lied two times and said that he was suing me.

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And oh, there's an episode here where I actually did call his attorney.

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Attorney said, Ain't no lawsuit been filed.

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He lied.

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If you listen deep enough, me and Donna Humphrey and a guy named Dennis McCasslin was all going to jail.

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Oswald was being jailed two years ago or a year ago now.

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Oh yeah, he was written already.

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David McClam, Donald Humphrey, Dennis McCoy, they all going to jail.

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You're gonna read about it.

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So just to show you how dumb some people is, uh, and they believed it, I actually did an episode where that's pretty much how I started it out.

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When I was like, man, you know, um I'm just right, I'm just you know telling you this right now.

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I have been arrested.

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I'm out on bail right now.

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I gotta go back to jail because of the things in the podcast.

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And I was like, man, I can't even tell that lie.

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But you know what?

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A whole bunch of people thought, oh my God, we got him.

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Yeah.

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Nothing to go to jail for.

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So, thank you guys for listening to this story.

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We have a lot of guests coming on the show this year.

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I want you guys to be tuned to it.

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One of the young ladies that I'm about to record now, man, you guys are gonna want to hear this.

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She's been through some stuff here life.

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She's a survivor of all kinds of abuse.

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And we're gonna talk about that.

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And we got some authors and stuff lined up for you.

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But I had to come and tell you this today because I wanted to get ahead of it.

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If anything comes of it, do with it what you will, but enjoy this song.

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This song is called Caught in a Lie.

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And I will catch you guys on the next one.

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When I took science, my teacher once told me if any part of a hypothesis ain't true, then you gotta throw the whole thing out.

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And I believe that's what we're dealing with right now.

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Jerry Jones Dragon Stone Sit up on the show, sit down, sit down, and so.

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And the proof's been shown.

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You're in the fire built on sticks in stone.

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You try to free me for the truth don't die.

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The world can see your code in a lie.

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So Jerry, what's next?

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What's the next story you'll sell to your crowd?

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You said I was scared, but the only thing I fear is how far a lie will go.

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Before it burns itself out.

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