Reflecting on Hulk Hogan's Controversial Legacy: A Lifelong Fan's Perspective on Wrestling's Iconic Figure

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David McClam.

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What's going on everybody,

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welcome to another episode of True Crime,

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David McClam.

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So before we jump into today's episode,

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let me just tell you a couple of things.

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First of all,

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I'm sorry I've been gone for so long.

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That was a total mishap on my part.

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I had to be away because of funerals and stuff,

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but I did have episodes that was supposed to release and they did not.

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And I found it out when I got back.

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So

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Earlier,

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you just got a episode that was supposed to be released that was on

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California prison reform.

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And then you'll be getting some other ones online that should have been there.

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This one is an impromptu one.

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So look for those to follow.

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Also,

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after this one,

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please stick around to the end because I'm going to tell you about someone that's going to come on the show and you don't want to miss it.

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I usually don't give away who's going to come on the show or...

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tell you what it's about.

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But I feel because of what the nature of this is,

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I need to go ahead and tell you guys so you guys would be sure to tune in.

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So once again,

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sorry for the long gap.

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Totally not planned to do that,

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but we'll be getting back on track here.

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All right.

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So today's episode,

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not a true crime episode.

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but something that I feel like I have to talk about because people have reached out to me and asked me what I thought about this being that

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I am and have been a long time

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WWE fan.

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I've been watching wrestling now for probably about 48 years or so.

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So most of my life since I was a very young kid.

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And so today we're going to talk about

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Hulk Hogan.

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Now,

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before I do,

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I'm going to just preface this by saying this off the bat.

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Some of my opinions are not going to be things that some people like to hear,

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but I'm going to tell you what I think and what I believe anyway.

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And I'm not here to drag anybody,

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but when I'm asked my opinion on things,

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I'm going to give you my honest opinion and the truth,

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especially if it's something that has...

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affected me,

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which Hulk Hogan has greatly affected me in my life.

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So I just wanted to say that off the bat.

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No one has to agree with my opinion,

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but it is my opinion and my opinion alone.

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All right.

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Hulk Hogan,

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as we all know,

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July 24th,

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2025,

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Hulk Hogan did pass away.

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If you've been paying attention,

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his passing has been very controversial,

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but we will get into some of that later on down the line.

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Let me read to you what I did write that day or actually the day after that on my Facebook about the death of Hulk Hogan.

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I said,

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I'm sure some will not agree with my opinion on this one.

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I am used to it being a true crime podcaster.

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When it comes to Hulk Hogan,

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I guess Cody Rhodes said it best.

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And I quote,

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I know emotions and feelings regarding it are complicated.

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But what is not complicated is his accomplishments and his contributions to WWE,

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to sports entertainment,

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to pro wrestling,

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to entertainment as a whole.

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End quote.

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So although I do not condone anything he did,

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the fact is.

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Me and many other kids in the 80s would not be wrestling fans if it were not for Hulk Hogan.

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He is truly wise.

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They say in wrestling,

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my ass is in the seat and it still is to this day.

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So for bringing me something that I will love to this day,

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I thank him.

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I liken this to OJ.

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Many know and believe he did the crime he was accused of,

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but what he did for football can never be erased.

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In Hogan's case,

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sometimes you have to separate the character from the man.

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I believe all of the things he did that was bad in wrestling and beyond was done on Terry Bollea time.

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However,

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due to who we knew him as,

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for some,

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it was hard to separate the two.

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So I say rest in peace to the Hulk Hogan I knew when I was 10 and to the other side of him.

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I hope he made his peace with God.

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And then I said,

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P.S.

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I would also like to take this time for those who will continue to call wrestling fake.

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We as wrestling fans are not dumb and know the history of wrestling.

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However,

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I will tell you only the outcome is predetermined.

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And we have known that for years.

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If you ever watch wrestling with me or have,

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then you would know I will sometimes call the outcome of a match.

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or a blown move.

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everything else is very real.

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Hogan had 25 back surgeries in 10 years,

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which led to a total fusing and reconstruction of his spine.

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Mick Foley has broken every bone in his body and has the body of a 90 year old.

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So not everything you see is fake.

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let me kind of give you some insights to my comments.

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I felt it was important to say that last part that you just heard because

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I was...

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Stopping the wrestling is fake,

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people,

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before they began.

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There are just some people that's going to believe that everything that they see is fake and that those of us who have been wrestling fans and venture wrestling fans for years are just too dumb to figure that out or that we just drink the Kool-Aid that WWE pours down our throat.

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We,

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as true wrestling fans,

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know what's real and what's fake.

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we know is predetermined.

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Vince McMahon knew that when he changed the name to WWE,

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when WWE was sued years ago because of

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WWF being the World Wildlife Fund.

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And they wanted that name back.

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If I remember correctly,

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Vince McMahon did not even fight it.

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He pretty much said it was time for a change in name that did not insult the wrestling crowd anymore.

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And so we got WWE,

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which stands for World Wrestling Entertainment.

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What I mean by my statement here is,

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don't condone everything Hogan did,

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but I can't take away,

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and neither can anybody take away,

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what he actually did do for wrestling.

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If there was no Hulk Hogan,

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there would be no WrestleMania,

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no SummerSlam,

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no Royal Rumble,

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there'd be no wrestling as we know it now.

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Also the same for Vince McMahon.

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Those two came together and gave us what we have now.

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So if you erase everything that Hulk Hogan has ever done,

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because of some bad deeds that he did when it comes to wrestling,

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then you will,

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in fact,

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be erasing wrestling as we know it.

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I have to thank him for that because of the fact that if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan and me being a little kid,

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I probably never got into wrestling.

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I knew of the old wrestling days because my mom used to watch Bobo Brazil and

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Ric Flair and Arn Anderson's of the world.

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you had to have something that was captivating for you to want to watch that show.

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And when Hulk Hogan came out with the red and gold and the say your prayers,

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eat the vitamins,

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and he was this larger than life figure,

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that is what actually drew kids into wrestling.

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But then sometimes in life,

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people do things that takes away from the legacy that they built.

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And you can't just separate that all of a sudden because

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The man dies.

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The biggest thing that I hate about people is being fake.

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If you feel about somebody one way,

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don't change that up because that person died now.

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If that person was a trash person and you lived your life saying he was a trash person and you did everything to stay away from him because he was a trash person,

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then he doesn't automatically turn into a good person because he passes away.

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So when Hulk Hogan passed away,

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there was a lot of controversy that went around that.

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There's a lot of backlash from wrestlers that wrestled with him.

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There's a lot of backlash from black people that pretty much says forget Hogan.

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There's a lot of backlash from white people that said forget Hogan didn't stand for what he did.

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Let's just tackle some of that and see why that is.

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There was a private conversation in July 2015,

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and here's what everybody is throwing out.

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I believe on the day to the letter that he made his racist comments,

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Hulk Hogan died.

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Was it like 10 years later or something like that?

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Hulk Hogan dies.

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And this has been the big thing that everybody is blowing up,

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because they're like,

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oh,

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here's karma.

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He dies exactly to the letter on the day.

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that he made these comments.

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So people say,

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you know,

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karma came back to get him,

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you know,

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just

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10 years later,

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now he passes on that date.

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So in July 2015,

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there was a private conversation and the conversation was actually from a few years prior,

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right?

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So it came from a 2007 sex tape that surfaced and it revealed Hulk Hogan by his real name.

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I don't know if anybody knew his real name to that point.

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I kind of did because he had did a couple of shows where you know his name terry balea was there

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he did Rocky,

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even though they had him as the Hulk,

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but I think they put Terry the Hulk Balea.

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But a lot of people don't pay attention to that.

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So this sex tape actually told you what his real name was.

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And he made some explicit remarks that was racist.

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And the remark was so bad.

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That it resonated through the whole entire wrestling world.

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And there was people like me that was like,

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okay,

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no,

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he really didn't say this,

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did he?

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I had to go and dig up stuff to make sure that he said it.

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I would never have believed in the million years that because of what Hogan stood for,

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at least as a wrestler that I grew up with as a little kid,

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that he would ever make those kind of statements.

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So I dig up this statement and figure out that the statement is about his daughter dating the black dude.

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He's throwing around the N-word pretty much saying,

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you know,

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he didn't want to do the data N-word.

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But if she was going to date one,

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at least make him be eight foot tall and make all these money,

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millions of dollars.

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And he says,

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I'm racist to a point.

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People,

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whether you agree or disagree,

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that killed Hulkamania for a whole lot of people.

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It even killed it so bad that the

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WWE wanted to distance themselves from Hogan.

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So that same year,

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they actually removed Hogan from the WWE

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Hall of Fame.

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You had no mention of him.

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He wasn't in the legacy section they had at that time.

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He wasn't in the Hall of Fame section.

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Hogan was gone.

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They had made an actual statement that said he would no longer be there because of these comments.

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Now,

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if you follow wrestling or anything about Hulk Hogan,

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you know he was inducted into the Hall of Fame twice.

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He was inducted first in 2005 when he went in solo,

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then again in 2020 as a member of the

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NWO New World Order.

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I was actually there in 2005.

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I have my coin still because they gave us this big old Hall of Fame coin that I still have sealed in cellophane.

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And I was there at Hulk Hogan's induction ceremony in 2005.

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Short story is I was on a cruise.

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We was trying to get tickets to go to

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WrestleMania. It was here in L.A.

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and I had called my friend Milt and I said,

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hey,

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you need to go get us some tickets,

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man.

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Here's my credit card number.

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We need to get to WrestleMania.

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So then...

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I get a hold of him when I get to the port and he goes,

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dude,

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I could not get us into WrestleMania.

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They say it's one of the fastest sellouts.

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I think it's sold off like 90 seconds.

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So I said,

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what can we get to then in that weekend?

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He goes,

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I think I can get us tickets to the Hall of Fame.

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So we got tickets to the Hall of Fame and we went.

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And when we went,

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there was it was a nice big class of people.

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The Iron Sheik was in there,

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a whole lot of other folks.

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It was bomb because it seems like all of my childhood was getting inducted that day.

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So I was happy to be there while Hogan got inducted.

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So in 2015,

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they ended up removing

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Hogan because of all this controversy,

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like I said.

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And so we thought that was the end of that.

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Well,

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then July 16th of 2018 rolled around and then we find out that they reinstated Hogan back into the Hall of Fame.

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And

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I guess because they felt like after numerous apologies and the things that he said,

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and then you did have some black wrestlers like Booker T came out and said that they didn't know that he was racist.

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They never treated him racist or whatever.

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And they thought that he had learned his lesson.

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WWE said,

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okay,

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We'll put you back in.

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Now,

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that was also met with a lot of controversy.

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There was a lot of people that still saying we don't even know why he was put back in.

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He should have just been let go.

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He should have just been done with.

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Okay,

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here's kind of where I stood on that.

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And I know this incident I'm going to mention happened way after that.

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But so I think it was back in 2020.

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Nick Cannon on the Nick Cannon show decided to have Professor Griff on his show.

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Professor Griff made some anti-Semitic statements and pretty much Nick Cannon agreed with some of them and he made comments behind it.

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As a podcaster myself,

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I did not give Nick Cannon any leeway on that because he already knew where Professor Griff stood and he knew what Professor Griff was going to say.

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And it is Nick Cannon's decision what gets aired and what does not.

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I don't think anybody tells you Nick Cannon could have said,

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whoa,

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we can't air this.

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You need to remove it or don't air it,

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but we can't.

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But he didn't do that.

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He went on the whole thing and he chimed in and he made comments.

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And then this pretty much got Nick Cannon canceled.

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Fox condemned him.

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He lost his walling out on MTV.

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A lot of people pulled out on him except for the Masked Singer.

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The Masked Singer felt like that they thought that he could be rehabilitated and that he could bring

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Goodwill back.

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So they did not cancel him immediately.

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Now,

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the difference between Nick Cannon and Hulk Hogan.

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Well,

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let me say this before I go there.

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So when they reinstated Hogan in 2018,

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this is before the Nick Cannon incident ever happened.

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I was kind of like,

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OK,

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well,

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I hope that he learned his lesson.

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and

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well let's see where it goes if he's truly sorry if he says that he's not racist and you know everybody says black people want to pray one they don't forget nobody say they're racist so i said let's see if he's not really racist and he's really sorry about these kind of things then he's not going to repeat these at any time in his life now

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when it comes to nick cannon even though it happened a couple years later when nick cannon did this same thing same thing

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Right.

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I'm like,

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oh,

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man,

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he's off the rails.

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Like I just said,

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he could have pulled this stuff,

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but he didn't.

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Everybody counseled the masked singer and then he started making apologies.

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Now,

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here's where there is two different opinions or let me say people just want to side with whoever.

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When Nick Cannon did this exact same thing,

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pretty much.

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People wanted to crucify him and say he should be gone and say,

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nope,

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Nick should never come back.

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But the moment they put Hogan back in the hall in 2018,

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yes,

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there were some people that disagreed.

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But a lot of people was like,

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oh,

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way to go,

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brother.

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He should come back.

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You can't hold both.

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If you're going to forgive one,

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you've got to forgive the other.

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So,

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of course,

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start coming out.

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Well,

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it's because Nick Cannon is black.

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If you want to look at Nick Cannon in the world that he's in.

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Nick Cannon's a big name.

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He was a comedian.

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Wild N'

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Out's been on for years.

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He's done things for the comedian and hip-hop community that nobody else has ever done.

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Same with Hogan and Wrestling.

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So I was willing to give Hogan this chance.

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Then Nick comes out and does what he does.

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Now,

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the difference between Nick Cannon and Hulk Hogan is this.

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Nick Cannon apologized.

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He went on and he worked on himself.

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I think he went overseas to some kind of camps.

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He made these comments that I'm doing everything I can every day to be a better Nick Cannon.

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And I apologize.

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Nick Cannon never did this stuff again.

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Now,

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if he is doing it,

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if he's still making racist,

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anti-Semitic comments or whatever he's doing,

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he ain't doing that in public.

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He ain't doing it where people can hear him.

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And so his career,

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he got everything that he pretty much lost back.

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including keeping the Masked Singer,

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which is still going on to this day.

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Nick Cannon learned from his mistake and he never repeated it.

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Hulk Hogan did not.

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Now,

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I don't get into politics on my channel,

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but I kind of have to talk about it because it leads that way.

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And no,

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I'm not saying the things I'm saying about Hogan because he decided to be Republican and he decided to go off and go to the RNC and back up Trump.

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It has nothing to do with that.

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You can do what you want.

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Let me point this out.

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There are several other wrestlers that are Republicans and back Trump too that has not been canceled.

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The Undertaker is one of them.

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But when you threaten to body slam a woman,

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no matter if it is a joke and is already heated,

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you haven't learned.

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When you side with somebody that people has already decided is a racist,

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You haven't learned now again,

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like I said undertaker is a trump supporter

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But he's come out in different level of that He just said he believed in what the guy was gonna do and you know He wanted to give him a shot and so on and so forth no racial ties Anybody even thought about with the undertaker?

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But when it came to Hogan,

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you start adding up the racial comments.

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You start looking at the comments that some people was thinking was racist that he was making about Kamala Harris.

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As quiet as it was,

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he threatens to body slam

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Kamala Harris at one of his shows at his bar.

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I think that it was.

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Yeah.

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And then you look at the comment that you win with the current guy that's president.

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You add all that up for some people.

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Racism comes out.

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You can believe and think about who you want to or back who you want to in politics.

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That's your decision.

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But when it comes down that somebody looks at them a certain way,

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you have to accept that person's opinion.

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So now people's like,

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oh,

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yeah,

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it's perfect that Hogan is with with Trump because he's a racist and

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Trump's racist.

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So here it is.

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Now,

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here was the biggest turning point.

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After all that was said and done,

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people started to turn on Hulk Hogan.

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Then comes the whole entire thing with his new American beer.

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Now,

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controversy continues with that because he's got his great American beer.

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I think that is called.

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He's really doing this thing big.

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He's got this whole promotion is going to go on behind it.

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The WWE has now signed on to it.

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They actually have his emblem in the ring.

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Then the controversy comes out that he fired.

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a brand ambassador that was hired to promote real American beer after he met her and realized she was a black woman.

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Now,

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some people say,

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oh,

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that ain't true.

486
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Why else did he fire her then?

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There's never been any other reason of why he fired her.

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Her name was Janae.

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She also claims that she was fired after she met him.

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and implied that she was hired through a booking agency.

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So what that means is that he hired an agency to hire people.

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He couldn't go out and say,

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make sure you hire somebody that's white.

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They hired this young lady,

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Janae,

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who was more than capable of doing the job.

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Have you ever seen her?

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She's a beautiful woman.

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You know,

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if that's what he wanted was beauty promoters beer,

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he had it.

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Problem was she was black.

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Now,

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the one thing that he did that people wanted to say he wasn't racist is he took a picture with her.

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Yippee-ki-yay.

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I'm taking pictures of people that I know is racist for a fact.

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A picture doesn't mean anything.

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So then that blew up.

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Then somebody wrote to him on Twitter and said,

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thanks for making it clear that you don't work with black brand ambassadors.

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This has captured her first TikTok where she shares images from the first in-store event alongside Hogan.

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And she doubled down with her comment within the clip that read

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POV Hulk Hogan paid you to be a brand ambassador and canceled your contract the next day because he realized you were a black brand ambassador.

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You can't argue with certain things.

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No other reason to fire this young lady.

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She was there on post when he got there.

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She was promoting the beer.

518
00:23:34.224 --> 00:23:37.365
But for the mere fact that he was that she was black.

519
00:23:38.356 --> 00:23:39.117
She had to go.

520
00:23:39.918 --> 00:23:40.198
Now,

521
00:23:40.257 --> 00:23:42.220
to further double down on that point,

522
00:23:43.181 --> 00:23:43.982
as you guys have heard,

523
00:23:44.021 --> 00:23:47.603
his daughter Brooke has come up in the news recently.

524
00:23:48.486 --> 00:23:51.048
Brooke hadn't talked to Hulk Hogan for at least two,

525
00:23:51.088 --> 00:23:52.588
the last two years of his life.

526
00:23:53.470 --> 00:24:03.642
Brooke has brought up on the TMZ interview she just did that she had been hurt and no one's looking at the hurt she went through when he made those racist comments.

527
00:24:04.361 --> 00:24:07.064
There's a lot of things that Brooke and Hulk

528
00:24:07.524 --> 00:24:11.429
went through in her lifetime with him.

529
00:24:11.547 --> 00:24:12.508
And like she said,

530
00:24:12.668 --> 00:24:13.972
all you got to do is Google it.

531
00:24:15.031 --> 00:24:18.074
Now that kind of put Brooke in a hard place,

532
00:24:18.113 --> 00:24:18.277
right?

533
00:24:18.316 --> 00:24:19.394
Because that's her dad.

534
00:24:19.980 --> 00:24:21.074
She loves her dad.

535
00:24:21.801 --> 00:24:23.855
And she even states that she did love her dad.

536
00:24:23.856 --> 00:24:24.918
And there was a lot of good times.

537
00:24:24.919 --> 00:24:25.715
So there was a lot of bad.

538
00:24:25.716 --> 00:24:30.105
Her husband even made a comment that I believe he said he never even met the twins,

539
00:24:30.183 --> 00:24:34.293
the two kids that they have because he said Hulk wasn't interested.

540
00:24:34.912 --> 00:24:40.656
So when your own family comes out and wants to call you up on your BS,

541
00:24:41.320 --> 00:24:42.699
you can't go back and say,

542
00:24:42.843 --> 00:24:43.078
well,

543
00:24:43.164 --> 00:24:44.359
it's just people making this up.

544
00:24:44.499 --> 00:24:45.359
This is his daughter.

545
00:24:46.421 --> 00:24:48.789
She's even stated that she believed her dad was a racist.

546
00:24:49.429 --> 00:24:49.765
Now,

547
00:24:49.867 --> 00:24:53.249
the whole thing came up about her being removed from the will and all that.

548
00:24:53.312 --> 00:24:54.249
She kind of cleared that up.

549
00:24:55.249 --> 00:24:57.249
She basically didn't want nothing from Hogan at that point.

550
00:24:57.578 --> 00:24:58.578
She's been taking care of herself,

551
00:24:58.656 --> 00:25:00.124
but she knew how the family.

552
00:25:00.576 --> 00:25:01.737
was going to react to money.

553
00:25:01.857 --> 00:25:03.959
She's already seen how the family is going to be.

554
00:25:04.558 --> 00:25:06.363
She didn't want to be a part of that circus.

555
00:25:07.465 --> 00:25:08.801
And she declined.

556
00:25:09.246 --> 00:25:09.402
Now,

557
00:25:09.488 --> 00:25:10.965
Harvey was asking her,

558
00:25:11.129 --> 00:25:11.387
well...

559
00:25:12.450 --> 00:25:16.555
What if you're not really from the will or whatever your dad left things specifically for you?

560
00:25:17.153 --> 00:25:18.297
Are you going to accept it?

561
00:25:18.298 --> 00:25:20.059
And she pretty much had a hard time saying yes.

562
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.301
So whatever the riff was,

563
00:25:23.403 --> 00:25:28.145
besides that racist comment that he made years ago was with Brooke.

564
00:25:28.770 --> 00:25:29.364
It's deep.

565
00:25:29.614 --> 00:25:34.145
When you have somebody that lives in a 14.5 million dollar mansion and you don't want a piece of that.

566
00:25:34.598 --> 00:25:39.114
And you've been the one that's been behind your dad the whole time and with him through everything.

567
00:25:39.723 --> 00:25:41.004
There is something to be said.

568
00:25:41.338 --> 00:25:46.539
But she also said she wanted to prove that she didn't need the money or she wasn't out for her dad's riches,

569
00:25:46.899 --> 00:25:48.840
which she says the rest of the family will be.

570
00:25:49.360 --> 00:25:52.578
And now their meal ticket is no longer here.

571
00:25:54.117 --> 00:25:54.242
Now,

572
00:25:54.281 --> 00:25:55.563
what I really do dislike,

573
00:25:55.899 --> 00:25:56.938
like I think I said at the beginning,

574
00:25:57.383 --> 00:26:01.961
is people that wants to turn a certain way because somebody died.

575
00:26:02.742 --> 00:26:08.461
I'm going to tell you as painful as it was after Hogan made those statements years ago.

576
00:26:09.290 --> 00:26:12.474
After he did what he did at the RNC.

577
00:26:12.814 --> 00:26:12.935
Now,

578
00:26:13.013 --> 00:26:18.021
I was willing to forgive him for the past if he kept his nose clean.

579
00:26:18.638 --> 00:26:27.849
But after now he is deciding that he wants to go around and promote that he wants to body slam women and all those kind of things.

580
00:26:28.302 --> 00:26:32.927
I had totally removed Hulk Hogan from everything that I have.

581
00:26:32.928 --> 00:26:34.599
I'm a huge WWE collector.

582
00:26:34.802 --> 00:26:35.974
Ton of Hogan stuff.

583
00:26:36.418 --> 00:26:47.907
I'm about to have a blanket made out of the t-shirts that I've collected over the last 30 years and I have about two boxes it's gonna take like two blankets to get them all on here removed every Hulk Hogan shirt that was there

584
00:26:48.509 --> 00:27:03.751
I can't support somebody that stands for racism no matter how little or how big or that threatened to hurt women now what I was getting to is people I don't like when people want to turn because somebody died if

585
00:27:03.861 --> 00:27:05.423
you go to the first

586
00:27:06.054 --> 00:27:08.955
Monday Night Raw that was done on Netflix.

587
00:27:10.115 --> 00:27:15.256
This is well after Hulk Hogan made the comment about body slamming and all that stuff.

588
00:27:15.295 --> 00:27:18.076
And a lot of people were happy he went to the RNC and the whole nine.

589
00:27:18.959 --> 00:27:23.600
So go to that first episode of Monday Night Raw on Netflix.

590
00:27:24.693 --> 00:27:25.584
I was here in LA,

591
00:27:25.615 --> 00:27:26.193
I believe.

592
00:27:26.693 --> 00:27:29.459
Hogan got booed out of the building.

593
00:27:31.562 --> 00:27:33.925
Everywhere Hogan went just about,

594
00:27:34.425 --> 00:27:36.425
unless he went to red States,

595
00:27:37.129 --> 00:27:39.070
he was getting booed out the building.

596
00:27:39.988 --> 00:27:40.371
Now,

597
00:27:40.629 --> 00:27:41.894
according to Jimmy Hart,

598
00:27:42.933 --> 00:27:44.277
this really hurt Hulk Hogan.

599
00:27:44.832 --> 00:27:46.894
He didn't know why he was getting booed.

600
00:27:47.316 --> 00:27:48.058
And then he says,

601
00:27:48.105 --> 00:27:48.215
well,

602
00:27:48.216 --> 00:27:50.168
we went to Texas and everybody loved him.

603
00:27:50.308 --> 00:27:50.527
Okay.

604
00:27:50.605 --> 00:27:50.808
Well,

605
00:27:50.902 --> 00:27:52.121
Texas is a red state.

606
00:27:52.168 --> 00:27:54.121
So if you're looking at if people who are

607
00:27:54.558 --> 00:27:57.949
Trump followers is following him there and they're going to be okay with it.

608
00:27:58.011 --> 00:27:58.230
Okay.

609
00:27:58.246 --> 00:27:59.386
He probably will get a lot.

610
00:27:59.886 --> 00:28:15.942
of praise in the red states because well trump's republican and texas is one of the biggest followers of trump right now right but in every other venue he got booed out the building now if this is how you feel and

611
00:28:15.974 --> 00:28:27.505
if you feel like he was a trash human and he deserves to be booed out the building you need to keep that same energy when you find out that hulk hogan is now dead

612
00:28:29.314 --> 00:28:30.776
I didn't change my stance.

613
00:28:30.936 --> 00:28:37.425
I just wanted to make a statement that I felt like it was respectable to him for the man that I knew that put me in the seat.

614
00:28:37.940 --> 00:28:40.542
It was going to be respectable to his family.

615
00:28:40.667 --> 00:28:45.237
I had no reason to continue to want to drag it out because me and other people are already dragging it out.

616
00:28:45.753 --> 00:28:49.378
But my stance on Hogan hasn't changed because he's dead.

617
00:28:50.690 --> 00:28:54.284
But what happened in WWE and the universe?

618
00:28:54.847 --> 00:28:55.034
Oh,

619
00:28:55.175 --> 00:28:55.800
my gosh.

620
00:28:56.034 --> 00:28:57.081
Everybody turned.

621
00:28:57.922 --> 00:29:00.486
The moment it came across Hogan was dead,

622
00:29:01.005 --> 00:29:08.509
every arena now has these Hulk Hogan signs and thank you brother and rest in peace and nobody booed.

623
00:29:08.510 --> 00:29:12.298
That ain't the true feelings of everyone in the universe though.

624
00:29:12.814 --> 00:29:15.220
Now I'm not saying you should continue to boo the man,

625
00:29:15.283 --> 00:29:15.580
okay,

626
00:29:15.736 --> 00:29:23.908
but don't go to the first episode of Netflix or Raw Netflix and then you hate the dude and then because he passes away,

627
00:29:24.064 --> 00:29:24.689
all of a sudden,

628
00:29:25.236 --> 00:29:26.423
you're in love with him again,

629
00:29:26.517 --> 00:29:26.626
and...

630
00:29:26.922 --> 00:29:29.723
We should let bygones be bygones and that's it.

631
00:29:31.245 --> 00:29:32.503
That's not how I live my life.

632
00:29:33.483 --> 00:29:37.245
I think everybody has to be accountable for what they do.

633
00:29:37.901 --> 00:29:41.026
And if you want to be remembered a certain way,

634
00:29:42.448 --> 00:29:44.909
you have to live your life that way.

635
00:29:45.831 --> 00:29:48.143
It is okay to make mistakes.

636
00:29:49.753 --> 00:29:50.050
You know,

637
00:29:50.331 --> 00:29:51.940
I've always said this before.

638
00:29:52.393 --> 00:29:54.721
Maybe there is a little racism in everybody.

639
00:29:54.987 --> 00:29:55.690
Maybe there is,

640
00:29:55.753 --> 00:29:55.925
right?

641
00:29:56.560 --> 00:29:57.100
Racism,

642
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:57.560
I think,

643
00:29:57.900 --> 00:30:02.262
has more forms than just hating somebody because of the color of their skin.

644
00:30:02.922 --> 00:30:05.219
They can be racist against a whole lot of things.

645
00:30:05.243 --> 00:30:08.180
You can be racist against women doing the same job as men.

646
00:30:08.181 --> 00:30:08.344
I mean,

647
00:30:08.345 --> 00:30:09.719
there's a lot of different racisms out there,

648
00:30:09.743 --> 00:30:09.962
right?

649
00:30:10.321 --> 00:30:15.438
But the biggest one that we deal with is racism against someone's skin tone.

650
00:30:16.782 --> 00:30:17.985
If you make that mistake,

651
00:30:18.032 --> 00:30:18.251
though,

652
00:30:18.782 --> 00:30:22.813
you apologize for that mistake and you keep moving.

653
00:30:23.001 --> 00:30:23.751
But if you will...

654
00:30:23.888 --> 00:30:26.411
apologize for that mistake and you keep moving,

655
00:30:26.450 --> 00:30:32.298
that means you should strive never to make that mistake again.

656
00:30:32.696 --> 00:30:33.477
And unfortunately,

657
00:30:33.595 --> 00:30:37.462
Hogan made that mistake again in many people's eyes.

658
00:30:38.102 --> 00:30:40.102
So if you want to be remembered to someone when you die,

659
00:30:40.790 --> 00:30:45.852
make sure you live the life that people will be able to go back and say,

660
00:30:46.806 --> 00:30:49.727
this is the legacy that he left and we're going to celebrate that.

661
00:30:50.252 --> 00:30:59.543
But if you turn into some type of a trash human being or you make statements that you shouldn't make and you don't go back to rectify those before you're dead,

662
00:31:00.121 --> 00:31:05.808
then the family and everybody else should not be coming for the people that feels a certain way.

663
00:31:07.043 --> 00:31:07.246
Now,

664
00:31:07.247 --> 00:31:08.777
I don't remember the exact statements,

665
00:31:08.778 --> 00:31:09.730
so I'm paraphrasing.

666
00:31:10.527 --> 00:31:11.558
But Kevin Nash,

667
00:31:12.168 --> 00:31:14.761
who you guys know worldwide as Diesel,

668
00:31:15.621 --> 00:31:16.839
was on his podcast.

669
00:31:16.855 --> 00:31:18.027
I think it's called Click This.

670
00:31:18.560 --> 00:31:19.280
And he was making,

671
00:31:19.340 --> 00:31:20.840
I think he made some statement like,

672
00:31:21.221 --> 00:31:21.581
you know,

673
00:31:22.360 --> 00:31:23.460
Hogan had a family.

674
00:31:23.522 --> 00:31:24.663
And what about his family?

675
00:31:25.002 --> 00:31:26.362
And what about his kids?

676
00:31:26.604 --> 00:31:29.002
And if you ain't got nothing nice to say about him,

677
00:31:29.323 --> 00:31:30.002
then F you.

678
00:31:30.526 --> 00:31:30.823
Well,

679
00:31:30.979 --> 00:31:32.042
here's the problem with that.

680
00:31:32.604 --> 00:31:33.924
Kevin Nash is crying.

681
00:31:34.424 --> 00:31:35.706
Ric Flair is crying.

682
00:31:36.143 --> 00:31:37.409
Jimmy Hart was crying.

683
00:31:37.690 --> 00:31:39.081
You know why they all crying?

684
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:43.127
Because they ain't affected by anything Hogan said.

685
00:31:44.127 --> 00:31:44.643
They didn't,

686
00:31:44.721 --> 00:31:46.362
he didn't say anything racist against them.

687
00:31:47.488 --> 00:31:51.833
He didn't threaten to body slam some white woman that everybody loved to death.

688
00:31:53.075 --> 00:31:56.118
It didn't affect them the way that it affects everybody else.

689
00:31:56.477 --> 00:31:58.438
So with all respect to Kevin Nash,

690
00:31:58.782 --> 00:32:02.243
he has no reason to tell somebody else how they feel.

691
00:32:02.743 --> 00:32:04.509
Because it wasn't just black people that came out with that.

692
00:32:04.540 --> 00:32:05.868
White people came out with that.

693
00:32:05.993 --> 00:32:06.852
Women came out.

694
00:32:07.134 --> 00:32:07.446
I mean,

695
00:32:07.852 --> 00:32:09.087
if you look up Hulk Hogan,

696
00:32:09.134 --> 00:32:12.899
it says Hulk Hogan's death resurfaces a bunch of open wounds.

697
00:32:13.227 --> 00:32:13.493
Okay,

698
00:32:13.556 --> 00:32:16.774
so he can't tell people how to feel.

699
00:32:17.512 --> 00:32:20.334
What about the people's families that he made that comment about?

700
00:32:21.276 --> 00:32:27.040
What about how Kamala Harris and her husband and her nieces probably felt when Hogan threatened to body slam her?

701
00:32:27.165 --> 00:32:28.383
Whether that's a joke or not,

702
00:32:28.384 --> 00:32:29.868
it's something that should not be joked about.

703
00:32:29.907 --> 00:32:36.555
So the things that we went through as African-Americans and he made that statement and Kamala Harris as being a woman,

704
00:32:37.290 --> 00:32:38.415
especially a woman of color,

705
00:32:39.055 --> 00:32:42.430
none of those three that I named was affected by that.

706
00:32:43.608 --> 00:32:44.449
On the other hand,

707
00:32:44.529 --> 00:32:45.850
I have to give him the due respect,

708
00:32:46.270 --> 00:32:49.973
especially when it comes to Jimmy Hart and when it comes to Ric Flair.

709
00:32:50.997 --> 00:32:52.575
They was up and down the roads with Hogan.

710
00:32:53.137 --> 00:32:53.419
You know,

711
00:32:54.395 --> 00:32:56.380
most of their life from wrestling was spent with Hogan.

712
00:32:56.481 --> 00:32:57.966
They have all these matches with him.

713
00:32:58.044 --> 00:32:59.122
Sylvester Stallone,

714
00:32:59.403 --> 00:32:59.637
you know,

715
00:32:59.684 --> 00:33:00.606
had him in this movie.

716
00:33:01.091 --> 00:33:01.762
But still,

717
00:33:01.903 --> 00:33:05.294
nobody wants to talk about what the best of is and that is what's happening.

718
00:33:05.669 --> 00:33:08.278
Everybody just wants it to go away and be swept under the rug.

719
00:33:08.966 --> 00:33:09.919
That's not going to happen.

720
00:33:10.856 --> 00:33:10.976
Now,

721
00:33:11.016 --> 00:33:11.896
I don't bash people,

722
00:33:11.897 --> 00:33:15.837
so I'm not going to speak on it any more than after this episode.

723
00:33:16.196 --> 00:33:17.216
But I am going to tell you,

724
00:33:17.356 --> 00:33:17.598
yes,

725
00:33:17.657 --> 00:33:19.555
Hogan did himself in.

726
00:33:20.219 --> 00:33:24.641
And it only takes one mistake to kill

727
00:33:25.360 --> 00:33:28.274
100 years of good deeds that you did.

728
00:33:29.165 --> 00:33:33.321
And this is going to be the same thing that's going to happen when Vince McMahon dies.

729
00:33:33.868 --> 00:33:37.977
When everybody's going to want to sweep under the rug what he did because he's dead.

730
00:33:38.040 --> 00:33:39.165
You're not going to be able to.

731
00:33:39.944 --> 00:33:47.671
His legacy should be one that you would come and thank Vince and celebrate him and the whole nine.

732
00:33:48.011 --> 00:33:50.112
But that one thing that happens,

733
00:33:50.878 --> 00:33:52.159
that sexual allegation,

734
00:33:52.253 --> 00:33:55.456
that lawsuit is going to trump all that.

735
00:33:55.722 --> 00:33:57.784
Just watch the moment that he passes away.

736
00:33:59.597 --> 00:34:00.222
In closing,

737
00:34:00.347 --> 00:34:02.065
I think I'd like to take a statement that

738
00:34:02.784 --> 00:34:03.331
I heard.

739
00:34:04.196 --> 00:34:04.697
On a video.

740
00:34:04.977 --> 00:34:07.218
So you guys remember who Maven Huffman was?

741
00:34:07.300 --> 00:34:10.101
Maven Huffman was in the WWE about 20 years ago.

742
00:34:10.281 --> 00:34:11.464
He has a YouTube channel.

743
00:34:11.863 --> 00:34:14.109
He decided that he was going to go and invade

744
00:34:14.585 --> 00:34:20.335
SummerSlam. Now Huffman has not watched wrestling since the day that he quit,

745
00:34:20.476 --> 00:34:22.210
I think in 2005.

746
00:34:22.226 --> 00:34:22.617
Or as they say,

747
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:23.288
got fired.

748
00:34:23.648 --> 00:34:25.335
He was asked that on his channel and he goes,

749
00:34:25.351 --> 00:34:25.476
No,

750
00:34:26.038 --> 00:34:29.601
that's like watching an ex-girlfriend be with a new dude.

751
00:34:29.617 --> 00:34:30.507
I just couldn't do it.

752
00:34:31.040 --> 00:34:33.721
But he's always still had passion to hang out with the fans.

753
00:34:34.080 --> 00:34:35.502
So he went to SummerSlam,

754
00:34:35.580 --> 00:34:36.842
paid the $40 to park,

755
00:34:36.881 --> 00:34:39.584
just to walk around the parking lot to talk to fans.

756
00:34:40.561 --> 00:34:44.404
He ended up running into this group of fans that were all together.

757
00:34:44.506 --> 00:34:47.076
They were all African-American guys and they were barbecuing.

758
00:34:47.420 --> 00:34:48.248
And so he was like,

759
00:34:48.264 --> 00:34:49.404
y'all got some extra burgers,

760
00:34:49.420 --> 00:34:50.170
some extra dogs,

761
00:34:50.171 --> 00:34:51.139
they gave him some wings.

762
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.482
And he was asking everybody this question.

763
00:34:54.027 --> 00:34:54.687
But he asked the guy,

764
00:34:54.688 --> 00:34:54.967
he goes,

765
00:34:54.987 --> 00:34:55.227
all right,

766
00:34:55.447 --> 00:34:55.588
man,

767
00:34:55.589 --> 00:34:56.807
let me ask you this question.

768
00:34:57.407 --> 00:34:58.026
Hulk Hogan.

769
00:34:58.667 --> 00:34:59.710
And the guy he was talking to,

770
00:34:59.768 --> 00:35:01.128
I think kind of said it best.

771
00:35:01.129 --> 00:35:01.710
He was like,

772
00:35:02.753 --> 00:35:03.229
he said he,

773
00:35:03.831 --> 00:35:04.471
and I'm paraphrasing.

774
00:35:04.472 --> 00:35:05.190
I don't got it exactly,

775
00:35:05.229 --> 00:35:15.487
but he pretty much said that he was torn because he mourned the guy that was his hero as a kid.

776
00:35:16.175 --> 00:35:17.190
And it was,

777
00:35:17.268 --> 00:35:22.690
he was saddened because of the fact that because of the things that Hogan has done in his life.

778
00:35:23.183 --> 00:35:29.310
that he's not able to celebrate him in the way that he should be celebrated.

779
00:35:29.970 --> 00:35:30.892
And I agree with that.

780
00:35:32.009 --> 00:35:37.900
We can't celebrate Hogan the way that we want to celebrate him because his life did not warrant that.

781
00:35:38.376 --> 00:35:38.798
Again,

782
00:35:38.861 --> 00:35:42.119
that's going to be the same thing that happens with Vince McMahon.

783
00:35:43.290 --> 00:35:45.540
So my suggestion again,

784
00:35:45.665 --> 00:35:48.431
my advice is to everybody who's listening to this,

785
00:35:49.025 --> 00:35:51.150
if you want to be remembered a certain way,

786
00:35:52.459 --> 00:35:53.360
If when you die,

787
00:35:53.380 --> 00:35:55.221
you don't want all this stuff to resurface,

788
00:35:55.842 --> 00:36:02.186
if you want to be remembered for whatever the good is that you did while you were still here breathing,

789
00:36:03.053 --> 00:36:05.631
then you have to live your life that way,

790
00:36:06.413 --> 00:36:09.413
even down to your last breath.

791
00:36:10.131 --> 00:36:12.460
If you made some mistakes in your life,

792
00:36:13.006 --> 00:36:17.569
make sure that you've already apologized for those.

793
00:36:17.944 --> 00:36:21.553
You made sure that you tried to clean your life up from that.

794
00:36:22.067 --> 00:36:23.128
And you move on.

795
00:36:23.469 --> 00:36:25.950
So even when the stuff does come back up,

796
00:36:26.512 --> 00:36:27.192
somebody can say,

797
00:36:27.274 --> 00:36:27.731
but wait,

798
00:36:28.332 --> 00:36:34.137
he apologized for those things and he never repeated those ever again.

799
00:36:34.496 --> 00:36:38.356
So we still cool to celebrate him the way we're supposed to.

800
00:36:39.246 --> 00:36:39.887
But remember,

801
00:36:40.528 --> 00:36:50.778
the way that your life was when you took your last breath is gonna be the way that people will remember you for the rest.

802
00:36:51.283 --> 00:36:52.304
of your life.

803
00:36:53.165 --> 00:36:55.027
People like to remember the good,

804
00:36:55.728 --> 00:36:56.927
but in today's world,

805
00:36:57.470 --> 00:36:59.689
people will remember the bad first.

806
00:36:59.814 --> 00:37:02.314
And if the bad outweighs the good,

807
00:37:03.212 --> 00:37:06.580
that is the legacy that you are left with.

808
00:37:07.853 --> 00:37:08.322
So again,

809
00:37:08.353 --> 00:37:08.900
I say this,

810
00:37:08.978 --> 00:37:15.822
rest in peace to the Hulk Hogan I knew as an eight or 10-year-old kid that put my butt in the seat,

811
00:37:16.212 --> 00:37:19.244
the man that had no blemish to me at that time.

812
00:37:19.715 --> 00:37:24.041
The man that was larger than life had cartoons on,

813
00:37:24.420 --> 00:37:31.224
and to this day is the reason that we do have the WWE and that my butt is still in the seat to this day.

814
00:37:31.865 --> 00:37:32.451
However,

815
00:37:32.685 --> 00:37:33.490
as an adult,

816
00:37:33.990 --> 00:37:34.412
I say

817
00:37:35.013 --> 00:37:39.459
I don't condone anything that Hulk Hogan did in the last part of his life.

818
00:37:39.802 --> 00:37:43.974
I have removed him from everything that there is in my wrestling memorabilia.

819
00:37:44.459 --> 00:37:48.115
There's just some things that you cannot support or get over.

820
00:37:48.631 --> 00:37:49.271
soul

821
00:37:49.371 --> 00:37:50.252
In that case,

822
00:37:51.073 --> 00:37:54.017
like I said in my Facebook post,

823
00:37:54.798 --> 00:37:55.997
whatever else that was there,

824
00:37:55.998 --> 00:37:59.157
I've been told that he was a Christian before he died.

825
00:37:59.501 --> 00:38:02.626
So I hope he made his peace with God and

826
00:38:03.368 --> 00:38:06.704
God is the only one that can save him and help him at this point.

827
00:38:07.064 --> 00:38:08.532
So I hope he was all good there.

828
00:38:10.329 --> 00:38:10.829
All right.

829
00:38:11.110 --> 00:38:11.939
So before

830
00:38:12.470 --> 00:38:13.798
I get out of here.

831
00:38:14.667 --> 00:38:17.711
I told you that I would tell you about an upcoming guest.

832
00:38:17.750 --> 00:38:19.894
The upcoming guest is going to come real soon.

833
00:38:20.453 --> 00:38:23.011
But the reason that I'm telling you this is because

834
00:38:23.535 --> 00:38:24.519
I want to say it now.

835
00:38:24.636 --> 00:38:27.761
I'm going to say it again because you ain't going to believe what you're going to hear.

836
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:28.644
So

837
00:38:29.300 --> 00:38:29.965
Wall Street,

838
00:38:31.340 --> 00:38:32.058
the mafia,

839
00:38:33.824 --> 00:38:34.308
jail,

840
00:38:36.496 --> 00:38:37.215
accidents.

841
00:38:37.949 --> 00:38:39.590
What is all that half in common?

842
00:38:40.496 --> 00:38:41.480
It's going to be my guest.

843
00:38:42.603 --> 00:38:46.768
He's written a book that's going to be coming out sometime around the end of August.

844
00:38:47.467 --> 00:38:48.690
His name is Ben Skull.

845
00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:50.893
You want to tune in for this.

846
00:38:52.190 --> 00:38:55.432
He contacted me and left me a message on my website.

847
00:38:55.518 --> 00:38:57.455
For those of you who haven't heard me say it,

848
00:38:57.456 --> 00:38:58.197
I'll say it again.

849
00:38:58.236 --> 00:39:00.619
If you want to leave me a voicemail message,

850
00:39:00.635 --> 00:39:04.744
you can do so by going to my website at truecrimeandauthors.com.

851
00:39:05.150 --> 00:39:06.229
On the right hand side,

852
00:39:06.244 --> 00:39:09.291
there'll be a little tag that says leave a voicemail.

853
00:39:09.369 --> 00:39:10.775
Click that and you can leave me a voicemail.

854
00:39:11.407 --> 00:39:14.089
I will get those and I can even play them on the air if you like.

855
00:39:14.630 --> 00:39:23.597
But he left me a voicemail and he starts telling me that he's been in Wall Street for years and that he ends up taking it up with the mafia.

856
00:39:23.722 --> 00:39:27.526
And he made all these millions and then he lost everything.

857
00:39:27.964 --> 00:39:29.011
And I was in here going,

858
00:39:29.026 --> 00:39:29.245
right.

859
00:39:29.605 --> 00:39:32.667
Remember what I've been through for the last year and a half with my partner.

860
00:39:32.933 --> 00:39:35.167
We are not afraid of podcasts.

861
00:39:35.198 --> 00:39:39.042
I had to launch that we did to defend her.

862
00:39:39.120 --> 00:39:39.730
and I've gotten...

863
00:39:40.063 --> 00:39:45.030
crazy people that's just been leaving me messages and they've been fake.

864
00:39:45.433 --> 00:39:50.441
So when I heard this guy and the thing that actually intrigued me the most was he didn't send me an email.

865
00:39:51.394 --> 00:39:51.935
He says,

866
00:39:52.015 --> 00:39:53.055
this is my name.

867
00:39:53.536 --> 00:39:55.358
And he gave me his real name.

868
00:39:55.698 --> 00:39:57.042
Ben Skoll is his pen name.

869
00:39:57.459 --> 00:39:57.920
But he says,

870
00:39:57.979 --> 00:39:58.862
this is my name.

871
00:39:59.303 --> 00:40:00.667
Here's my phone number.

872
00:40:01.346 --> 00:40:02.245
Give me a call.

873
00:40:03.284 --> 00:40:04.026
So I called him.

874
00:40:05.049 --> 00:40:06.268
Within five minutes,

875
00:40:06.346 --> 00:40:07.792
I knew this guy was the real deal.

876
00:40:08.588 --> 00:40:11.995
In case he thought that I didn't believe him,

877
00:40:12.510 --> 00:40:16.713
he starts sending me all of this proof through text messages.

878
00:40:16.745 --> 00:40:19.104
He sends me the cover of his book.

879
00:40:19.463 --> 00:40:20.870
He sends me when it's going out.

880
00:40:21.218 --> 00:40:26.362
He also sends me an article that deals with a crash he talks about in the book.

881
00:40:27.545 --> 00:40:29.127
I have covered a lot of things.

882
00:40:29.623 --> 00:40:30.545
I'm telling you guys,

883
00:40:31.030 --> 00:40:32.530
this is something totally different.

884
00:40:32.865 --> 00:40:34.748
You do not want to miss Ben Skull.

885
00:40:37.428 --> 00:40:40.194
He'll be coming up sometime in the next week.

886
00:40:40.615 --> 00:40:43.303
Look out for that because now I'm dropping this one.

887
00:40:43.647 --> 00:40:44.803
You're going to get an author.

888
00:40:45.365 --> 00:40:46.819
This guy's also an author,

889
00:40:46.850 --> 00:40:48.303
so it's going to be a double author drop,

890
00:40:48.319 --> 00:40:49.912
but I could put him on either.

891
00:40:50.862 --> 00:40:51.182
leg.

892
00:40:51.222 --> 00:40:54.264
I can put him at author or extraordinary person.

893
00:40:54.582 --> 00:40:56.504
And we're going to push this out because as you guys know,

894
00:40:56.582 --> 00:40:59.480
I try to accommodate authors that has a book that's going to come out.

895
00:40:59.887 --> 00:41:03.027
So his book's going to come out at the end of August and we're going to talk all about it.

896
00:41:03.543 --> 00:41:04.402
I've already read it.

897
00:41:04.746 --> 00:41:05.629
He sent it to me.

898
00:41:06.363 --> 00:41:07.613
I read all

899
00:41:08.144 --> 00:41:10.504
17 chapters in a night.

900
00:41:11.004 --> 00:41:11.129
Now,

901
00:41:11.144 --> 00:41:13.801
I don't know if he has any more going into the book over his finish,

902
00:41:14.301 --> 00:41:16.066
but that 17 chapters when he said it was done,

903
00:41:16.488 --> 00:41:17.160
but I'm telling you,

904
00:41:17.207 --> 00:41:18.144
it's a page turner.

905
00:41:18.650 --> 00:41:22.590
I read the whole thing to my daughter even one night,

906
00:41:23.211 --> 00:41:24.211
17 chapters.

907
00:41:24.312 --> 00:41:25.273
I haven't done that before.

908
00:41:25.551 --> 00:41:27.676
So make sure you tune in for Ben's goal.

909
00:41:27.677 --> 00:41:30.355
All right,

910
00:41:30.394 --> 00:41:30.676
guys,

911
00:41:30.677 --> 00:41:31.269
that does it for me.

912
00:41:31.410 --> 00:41:32.793
Thank you for tuning in for this one.

913
00:41:33.496 --> 00:41:34.941
Whether you agree or disagree with me,

914
00:41:35.738 --> 00:41:37.801
I thought this was something that was important to talk about,

915
00:41:37.848 --> 00:41:39.754
being that I have been a wrestling fan for years.

916
00:41:39.957 --> 00:41:42.582
I want to kind of give you guys my two cents on that.

917
00:41:42.957 --> 00:41:44.379
But you know how I feel about you guys.

918
00:41:44.410 --> 00:41:45.332
Whether you agree or disagree,

919
00:41:45.801 --> 00:41:46.863
I still love all you guys.

920
00:41:46.879 --> 00:41:47.473
And thank you.

921
00:41:47.898 --> 00:41:48.658
for tuning in.

922
00:41:48.959 --> 00:41:49.838
We're back on track.

923
00:41:49.959 --> 00:41:50.339
Once again,

924
00:41:50.498 --> 00:41:52.498
sorry about that mishap with the long gap.

925
00:41:52.939 --> 00:41:54.220
That should not happen again.

926
00:41:54.580 --> 00:41:57.599
And we're back on regular episodes as usual.

927
00:41:58.021 --> 00:41:58.357
Once again,

928
00:41:58.380 --> 00:42:01.263
I remind you again to look out for Ben Skull.

929
00:42:01.443 --> 00:42:03.420
He's going to be coming up here very,

930
00:42:03.498 --> 00:42:04.146
very soon.

931
00:42:04.646 --> 00:42:04.974
Actually,

932
00:42:05.646 --> 00:42:10.959
I meet with him in a couple of days from this episode to shoot his episode.

933
00:42:11.365 --> 00:42:12.771
Make sure to tune in for that.

934
00:42:14.318 --> 00:42:14.865
Once again,

935
00:42:15.396 --> 00:42:16.849
thank you for joining us today.

936
00:42:17.266 --> 00:42:20.869
I know you have many choices in True Crime and Interview Podcasts,

937
00:42:21.169 --> 00:42:24.755
and I am grateful that I am one of your choices.

938
00:42:25.255 --> 00:42:30.341
You have been listening to the only three-faceted podcast of this kind.

939
00:42:30.740 --> 00:42:33.162
Be good to yourself and each other,

940
00:42:33.709 --> 00:42:34.959
and always remember,

941
00:42:35.802 --> 00:42:36.818
always stay humble.

942
00:42:37.459 --> 00:42:39.787
An act of kindness can make someone's day.

943
00:42:40.474 --> 00:42:43.287
A little love and compassion can go a long way.

944
00:42:44.005 --> 00:42:46.396
And remember that there is...

945
00:42:46.790 --> 00:42:48.952
An extraordinary person in all of us.

946
00:42:49.013 --> 00:42:51.593
I'll catch you guys on the next one.

947
00:42:55.858 --> 00:42:57.023
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948
00:42:57.116 --> 00:42:57.499
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949
00:42:57.562 --> 00:42:58.421
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950
00:42:58.905 --> 00:43:00.046
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951
00:43:00.687 --> 00:43:02.405
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952
00:43:03.148 --> 00:43:07.585
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953
00:43:08.194 --> 00:43:10.616
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954
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955
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956
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957
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958
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959
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960
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961
00:43:28.111 --> 00:43:29.354
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