Karmelo Anthony: The Case for Self-Defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not defending or taking the side of what Carmella Anthony did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying it's right in any regard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As a matter of fact, I told you the first time that, okay, he stabbed somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's of defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should do some time for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should get punished for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he understands that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but because of what I dug up, because of the evidence I've seen, because of the reaction of Jeff Metcalf, because of the countless letters that has been written about the Metcalf boys, because people keep digging into this and finding out different things that nobody wants to talk about when it comes to the Metcalfs, like the whole bunch of trouble they've been in at school, I just don't believe Carmella Anthony is a murderer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe he did it in his self-defense because this is the way the evidence that was not presented to all of us in court that has taken us true crime park has in the super slew of figure out is leading.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to True Crime, offers and extraordinary people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The podcast where we bring two passions together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The show that gives new meaning to the old adage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here is your host, David McClam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go everybody, welcome to episode of True Crime, all the story of people, of course, up your man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is nothing worth your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, guys, when we get into today's episode and topic, a couple things I want to tell you guys about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, it's been about two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had to go do some equipment changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So new Mike stand had to come into play with that and new Mike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a whole mess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing too is, if I haven't told you guys this before, if you're listening to this on audio, we are also up and running on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their official YouTube channel will be placed in the show notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want a visual to go along with what you are hearing, you can always tune in over on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are at home or somewhere safe to do so, so now you have the audio and the video version.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, we do have some fresh interviews that be coming up with you guys shortly in soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some I have to edit others are making their way on to the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I finally got a new job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my skills has been all over the place so you guys have to bear with me and play by ear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the good thing about going back to work, not only for my finances, but it does give me in that space of thinking of what I want to say, do we create?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever I'm not at home or someplace else or see something in the world or something happens to be in the world, it always leads to more creation, and that's what brings us here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, with those things out the way,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we are continuing to cover the Carmelo Anthony case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will cover this case until it's all the way over and it's not all the over because Carmelo and team has put in an appeal, which I will say rightfully so right, but I tend to come at these things a little bit differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And especially when I have conversations with people, especially people in my family who make statements or accuse or say they follow something and then they end it with, well, I'm always going to look at things differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's what I'm going to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not the name to fill in my head this conversation with because I think it turned ignorant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of name pointing at me and a lot of things I should not have been said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't even the topic that was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which all we led down to, they know what's being said about being on the internet and it's bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I Google myself all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I google myself at least once a month because of nobody knows that sometimes you got to do these things so you know what's out there so you can put a stop to it right because google updates things all the time if somebody says something or if you did something new or if it picks up that I went out and shot somebody it picks that up AI is a mess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I threw my phone on my wife and says, what bad things do you see that they said

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[SPEAKER_00]: Google.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So since this family member says that I know what they say about you and other people, guys, if you ever Google David McClam, all you get is my shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you go on AI mode, it actually tells you exactly who I am, what I do, how long I've been doing it approximately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It can't, it said approximately nine years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only controversy that's ever happened to me is when I defended my friend Lagana Humphrey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise in that, my podcast and career as well as my YouTube career has been stellar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've gotten the guests that I've gotten because they've done the same shirt you do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you should've put in my real name or my first name because David is my real name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's my real name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You find the ignorant case that I did with the neighbor next door, which we haven't had a chance to talk about that because now that it's been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Over two years, I now can talk about it and we will talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've alluded to it before But the thing is, it's my whole life is out there on the internet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There ain't nothing anybody can say or do And the problem is is if somebody decides that they have things that they think they know about me or they want to bring things out That they think I haven't told remember this Everybody who wants to tell on somebody also has a history

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you should want to be careful about who you want to go after because the person you go after may have information on you that's even more damning than the stuff you want to bring on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, I'm told you guys, everything that's happened in my life because it helps other people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm going to say that because that's what we're going through in the Carmelo Anthony case right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a difference of opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's I want to look at this case

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in my opinion, if there are facts, which in this person came out to me, but they see what's talking about, I have facts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is proof, but there is ignorant enough that they don't want to hear it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what's happening in the Carmel Anthony case right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of what you think, regardless of what you feel, regardless of you want to look at it differently if the facts are there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you are taking the time to research the facts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact is always going to wind out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of what you think, regardless of what you feel and regardless of how different you choose to look at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it is everyone's right to have their own opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not saying that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is everyone's right to have a different view, not saying that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you take the time to put the pieces together,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You take the time to find the evidence before you want to accuse things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you take the time to analyze things, you may come to a different conclusion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're going to do here tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's take away all of the stuff that we already know that puts a big hinders on this case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And before I do, I want to start by saying this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything else you've heard me say about the Carmel Anthony case, 100% standby, made double down on it here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Second, there would probably be some religious talk in this video, just to let you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And third, again, I'm going to say this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two families were destroyed, not just one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome Metcalf passed away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rest in peace to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, no one deserves to die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The way he did, no family deserves to bury their child before they are buried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Totally agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But folks, we've got to look at the facts being the facts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, let's remove everything that's hidden in this case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's remove all the things that we already know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a racially charged case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We already know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a all-white jury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We knew that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been convicted for 35 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The case was short.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight days, three hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight days in trial, three hours to decide we already know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know Carmella Anthony is black and awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Metcalf was white.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that we know that his dad won the three hour races rent on social media, calling everything that he could think of, renamed Carmella Anthony the watermelon felon and could give you all kinds of misinformation on how Juneteenth actually worked when he says that we were slaves so to him and that they had to have a whole water free us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With all of that being known and stripped away, let's look at the evidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a body that would be here today because you can find this wildly on the internet, and you probably already heard it, but there's a lot of things that's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you what's coming up right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Hunter is responsible for his brother's death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Carmella Anthony never stabbed Austin McCaff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Carmella Anthony did not bring a knife to school when I tell you how that ends up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That there are letters that was written by cheerleaders to coaching staffs and principles about the McCaff boys being bullying, abulling them, calling them names, even the cheerleaders

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[SPEAKER_00]: Metcalf boys always gets away with this stuff and we're afraid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the end of the letter, the girl said, please don't tell them that is me that wrote this because if they find out they may come after me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The grainy video has been released.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm just going to say this and I may make some black people mad, but I tell you on this channel, I tell the truth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My next episode when I bring more evidence, when I'm not trying to have a let's look at this from a logical standpoint video, there is a guy who actually saw the video long before I got released.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he proved to you how he had to see this video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Matter of fact, Laquisha Kisha had him on her show,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he had to prove things to her before she would go live and say all right this guy saw the video so he had to show her the process he sent her the emails that he received when he did the FLIA he showed her the appointment time that was set by the school because the kisha kisha is like me I'm not going to come on here and tell you something that's not true or that speculation or that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, not being done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's speculation, I'll tell you, okay, we don't know this for sure, but here's what your case is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there was a bunch of things that he saw that he was able to see on this video that I could not make out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thinking maybe there's a different version of the video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe he because he was able to be really up close to the video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, he said that there was a lady that was pointing things out, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was telling him where to look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look up here, you're going to see Carmilla Anthony come down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look over here, you're going to see Austin and Hunter Metcalf come down with all these other kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's people directing him on where to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For one, this is not a cop video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a court video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This video belongs to the school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who sees it now recently they released the whole 60-minute video and a lot of people saying it was edited But some of the things they were saying they could see Carl Mello where he was sitting and standing how they got approached Okay, it was maybe my eyes is not the same, but I didn't see any of that what I can tell you I did see was this

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carmelo Anthony did walk into the stadium because they had him highlighted as he walked in so we knew it was him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does appear that he did sit down like he went up a couple of bleachers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see people that entered into the tent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: From there, you can see a scuffle take place because you see all the commotion that's happening under the tent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next thing you do see is the commotion is still going on and Carmelo Anthony pops up off the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, a lot of people are trying to say, oh, there he is after the stabbing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted you guys to know the video's been released.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that I'm not going to tell you, I saw what I did not see, but those things I did see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also not coming out that Eddie, the original friend that invited Kamel Anthony into the tent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first place is seen stripping down his clothes and either throwing them away or carrying them, but it's also seen him digging into the garbage can with a suspect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also told you that there was no blood that has been reported that was on Carmelo Anthony's clothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have seen the whole entire footage of the body cam from the cop and all the cops said about blood when he handcuffed him is, you have a little blood on your hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I want you guys to examine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just think about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is where I come at the commences into things because whether it's a black case, a white case, yeah, the black Panthers are involved and you know, a lot of people give the black Panthers a bad rap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been looking at a lot of videos that Dr. Matthews has been doing in rough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not just sitting around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Black people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where the Rizabeth Davis came to say that they embrace everybody and they down on my white people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen them storm a murder case of a white kid that got killed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're Cornell, Exodus, and y'all killed the wrong board today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen the going to apartment complex is that white people have called them out to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've called the whole entire city on the place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've seen them not only advocating for black people, but for all people that has been done wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was no violence involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, she just went in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I ain't going to lie and go lie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She likes to call a bunch of names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She calls people all kinds of names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you make her mad in you woman, you may get called to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is very abrasive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when she comes to try to talk to you, she's not putting hands on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's trying to give them the opportunity to say what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when they want to run, which I've seen some of them run, she says fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to call the city out, and that's what she does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now they got involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I stand behind my statement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said that black people protested way too soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you why I think that at the end again, because there's more to that now that I thought about the other reason why I say they protested too soon and what it may have looked like to the rest of America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here's what I want you to think about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to think about that with all this new stuff coming in that what I said you earlier could be true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to think about the evidence that was presented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to think about why the judge, in this case, where it was so important that we did, blocked the camera access, phone access, dictafone access, any kind of access

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to be honest with you, I'm not the only one that keeps talking about that because the media has talked about it, other people has talked about it, they don't understand it either because it would have solved a lot of things that we're dealing with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to think about if it is true that the people in Austin may cast hit lied.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also want you to think about is it weird that with a tent full of teenagers, there is no

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we had to put all of us together with what's going on in the media that we're hearing that we have to base this on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to make this perfectly clear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of them means that we're getting right into this third party because we couldn't see it directly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as shoe crime, podcasts or sometimes we turn into investigators and we research all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I want you to put in place the fact that it's been said that the nine witnesses on Austin Mitt Calf's side were never consistent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to keep in mind that some of them said that Hunter was in one spot, some said he was in the other, Hunter himself can't seem to remember where he was as such a

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to consider that Carmella Anthony had never brought a knife to school, because it came out that it wasn't a knife that he brought to school and it was never his backpack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a tool that they used to clean off or change their cleats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a multi tool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And from someone like myself who's ran track, those tools do exist on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to clean the dirt off the cleats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you wore the wrong cleats that day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are long cleats and short cleats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're running or you're doing a infield competition, such like the traveling or

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're doing, you know, throwing the ball or if you're doing the high jump, maybe the ground was a little bit too wet for your long cleats that day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you need to put the short cleats on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to have a tool that takes those cleats out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is having to be a multi-tool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It did a multitude of things, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I want you to put yourself in the tent, while I tell you this story that everybody else is saying, and you can tell me if you think that it could be true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carmella Anthony came out by himself, Eddie invited him inside the tent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was mine in his own business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't set, don't know where, but for where it looks, maybe one or two rolls up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Out of the corner, you see Hunter and Austin McCaff coming towards the tent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Behind him some other kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, according to reports, they were coming over there because some coaches that they used to coach them before was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't to say hi in the whole nine yards, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Carmella Anthony is sitting inside the tent mine to get his own business and the Metcalf boys enter together because Hunter stepped up in his interview and said that Austin approached Carmella.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But on a different interview with the news crew, he said, we approached Carmella.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which lends itself to be credible because somebody, one of the nine said exactly the same thing and then they changed it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say for a second, if argument that Carmelo said is actually what they said, they said leave, he said no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I think in somewhere there, he probably said he was invited because it was also reported that Eddie, all of a sudden was not that good of friends with Carmelo anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hunter gets in his face and pushes him once, because I believe that Hunter put his hands on him as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Austin was the more aggressive one though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when he was told to leave again, it was awesome this time that Austin pushes him once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Carmelas says, don't push me again or don't put your hands on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And according to reports, that was from the nine, he went to reach in his backpack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm not too terribly sure that's true because of what I'm going to tell you now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: According to other reports, the knife of the multi-tool was laying there in the tent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody had already used it and they just put it down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carmelos saw it, grabbed it, and that's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, after he gets pushed the second time, let's just say he did arm himself with this knife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, people's like he got, he got the weapon or he got the knife whatever and being big and bad because you can't do nothing to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Austin says, so what are you gonna do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes to push Carmelo again, but this time, he lands on said knife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somehow, through the back, Carmelo's able to get out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he's gotten out once before when he tried to leave before,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Austin was stabbed, but he was janked back in by his hoodie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not hearsay because this is exactly what Hunter said took place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe somebody reports us saying that some one of the nine also said, this is exactly what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now again, if Hunter slipped up because if you saw these interviews, I saw his mom look

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm telling you again, these are words that's coming directly from Hunter's mouth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to look at this as evidence, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he says, our military to leave his brother's nest and back in by his hoodie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That kills everybody's theory right there or everybody's saying that all my guys Carmelah was wrong, he should've left, he should've got the tent, just told you that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this scuffle is ensuing now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somewhere after Austin is now stuck in the chest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see Carmelo pop up through the tent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carmelo boats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But behind to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is at least four kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was reported that Austin also got up and tried to run after him and did not realize that he had been stuck in the chest until he got up, tried to run after Carl Miller with the rest of the realized that he had been cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's, and he fell down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This comes from the guy that saw the video and gave all the proof and said that he clearly could see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, did Carmel Anthony stab Austin on purpose or was it an accident or the theory that's going around Austin, Metcalf, fell on the knife, let's examine that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The knife or the tool, whichever you want to call it, is three and a half inches long, according to the corner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The groomed in Austin MacCast chess was two inches deep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said in the other episode, I'm going to say it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If someone is going to stab you violently, if you are trying to get someone off you, you are not concerned how far the knife goes in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like he's going to go, ah!

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[SPEAKER_00]: One inch, got you, let me go a little deeper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he has no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure in his mind, he could probably look at the knife and say, it's about three and a half inches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm sure he wasn't concerned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he didn't really know the top of his head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many inches the knife was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't want to get him off, so he plunged.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he would have stabbed him, the wound would have been at least the length of the knife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, depending on where he hit him at, because according to reports he was stabbed in the left side of the chest in the heart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the other reason why you can say that he probably was not stabbed the way he was said he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before I say this, I'm no doctor nurse, but I have a mother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: who was a nurse's aide and part of her training was wounds and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember the countless hours when I was a kid that I spent with my mom on medical terminology and seeing different parts of the body in the inside and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to say this, not as a professional, but as someone that had a professional in his life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you take a life implanted in somebody's heart,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Depending on if it's or rated or whatever the case is, regardless, if you get that artery correctly, and if you pull that knife out, man, he should have bled out instantly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There should have been bloods getting everywhere, should have been all over his shirt, to have been all over his pants, should have been all over his hands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he went running, he should have looked like a murder scene, but that's not what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Lobby will say, well, you shouldn't carry life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I carry this knife with me everywhere I go, everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, three, three to have inch knife is jagging the edges down here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I stand by the heart with this, you go know that I stand by the heart with this because oh, it's going to be stabbed and you're going to be spurting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do I carry this knife though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, protection out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's going to happen to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, in the end of this knife, I have a glass breaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I'm ever stuck in my car against the next thing that got for me, I can break the glass and also on the same knife right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a seat belt cutter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I'm in some accident that I can't break the glass or get out of my seat belt, this knife helps me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I carry this knife everywhere I go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also carry a more illegal knife probably in my car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can carry there, but I just can't carry it around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I call it my rainbow knife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a survival knife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what's happened out here in LA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you about people who live close to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I need to be able to protect myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm not saying I'm gonna just whip my knife out of my pot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the knife alone should be enough to deter you in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Besides, unless it's changed, you are supposed to also announce the somebody if you have a more professional fighting style or you've been trained above them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So being the most emotional artist, I'm supposed to say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I've done type one dobro, you may not want to go here today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they decide to continue on, then they get what they get, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not going to just pull that off and stab somebody, look man, don't put your hands on me, look, I got my knife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you don't want me to use my knife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if people want to come completely and just go on you, it is what it is at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've tried to deter that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I don't think I'm gonna live these stabbed him on purpose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this exactly how I told you it happened?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the wound from the corner says the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, he didn't die instantly seeing he was bleeding from reports in the novel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One call, there was a pull of blood and the blow was coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm not saying he wasn't bleeding out from the heart, but he wasn't bleeding out as strongly or as fast as he probably should have been if he had been spun stab and he cut a main artery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, think about what I just told you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it possible?

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[SPEAKER_00]: that called Mel Anthony was indeed being jumped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it possible from all reporters happening that the nine actually did tell some lies?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we put the rest of the stuff that we've been researching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to say it's some of the stuff of the regulatory because a lot of things I'm able to prove myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But being that I've seen what I've seen from Jeff Metcalf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't put it past them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming out that Jeff Metcalf held a barbecue where he threatened all the people of the barbecue that he invited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys say anything, we come in there is actually vocal clips out there of the Metcalf mother talking to some mother lady about getting around some things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I has also come out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that the prosecutor, the judge, and Jeff Metcalf knew each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, at first, people saying, everybody wants to just say that, that's a lie, that's not true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a different photo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, folks, when you have a murder case, and somebody's been done wrong, be garlands of color, the internet is going to do what the internet does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So everybody went looking and they indeed found photos

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[SPEAKER_00]: of social events.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing you should know if you don't know is, they had to change the jail while Carmella Anthony was going because the last name of the warden was Medcap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I want you to rewind back to the video I didn't play that I hope you guys didn't

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doing that rant, he started saying things like there's all kinds of justice, street justice, you know, jail justice, other kind of justice, and I think he's like the justice was going to become the Carmelo soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Reporters now come out and from the inside of the jail, even, that Carmelo Anthony was set up to be killed that night by the white Aryans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, like I said, I don't find concrete proof for that, but I think something's got to be true about that because they moved him before he even got in the jail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, of course, like, Evan gets what's calling, other white people was calling everybody was calling and before he could even sit foot in there, they moved him to a different prison that they now say is more secure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the sum of the stuff that's coming out, folks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's more stuff that's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do want to say this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This case has divided their races.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, I want to say this loud and clear because a lot of creators that our black is not telling you this, they're trying to make it sound like it's just black people out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a bunch of white people that is equally as bad as some black people right now, and they've made all kinds of videos on it, saying that he was real wrote it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a guy that's making videos every day that says he knows the men cast, he knows the people in charge, he knows the governor, he's calling them all out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what ain't just black people that's on this saying that Carmel Anthony is not guilty of murder, I want to point that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, answer this question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there is nothing more to this video, because I've been saying to this edit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when people started pouring it out, I think the governor of mayor, whoever said, that's it, seal the video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the video proves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that Carmella Anthony is guilty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it proves that he was not jumped that day, and he proves that he was the aggressor, why are we blocking the video?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta ask yourself that question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing I do want to make clear at least on my behalf is this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm gonna tell you something that I saw in Minister, say, and I'm gonna tell you why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never usually watch these kind of videos, but so told me to watch this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing I want you guys to understand is, I am not, and I don't think other black creators is either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I am not defending or taking the side of a murderer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not defending or taking the side of what

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carmel Anthony did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying it's right in any regard as a matter of fact, I told you the first time that, okay, he stabbed somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's of the fence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should do some time for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should get punished for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure he understands that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But because of what I dug up, because of the evidence I've seen, because of the reaction of Jeff Metcalf, because of the countless letters that has been written about the Metcalf boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because people keep digging into this and finding out different things that nobody wants to talk about when it comes to the metcasts Like the whole bunch of trouble they've been in at school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't believe Carmella Anthony is a murderer I believe he did it in itself defense because this is the way the evidence that was not presented to all of us in court That is taking us to true crime park has the super slew to figure out is leading

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the appeal he has won, the prosecution gave him that gift and I need you guys to understand that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is unaccustitutional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go with, I'll look at things differently, different of opinions again, but you can't argue with the Constitution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is unconstitutional to make a black person have an all white jury and they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of black people who still feel that Carmella Anthony is a murderer and where he's supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the prosecution was doing this fairly, he may have got one of those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then now he has a recourse when they want to appeal it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I would have did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'd been like, I want to strike all black jurors because I don't want the chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I gotta put at least one on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope I get one that feels like Carmelo Anthony's equally ins guilty and I still get the verdict that I won't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you do that, now he has to find a different basis to appeal because once you get in front to appeal and you bring up the basis to appeal and the basis is credible and the court accepts that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you get to open up all the other worms and wounds in this case that you felt like was bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and adequate defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The judge, so we poorly knows the prosecution and the father.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything now comes in the play because you gave him that gift of being racist enough to want to give him an all-way jury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also coming out that this judge could be under fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because according to several people, the judge said, I want to get through this as quick as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't have cared, and he went back there for 30 seconds, said guilty came back, Gaussian, get me on a guilty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would have took the plea and moved on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, that's not a judge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a fair judge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm going to tell you why I don't trust in all by jury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna tell you why I feel like that the decision was already made before Carmelo Anthony, even step foot in the courthouse and open his statement's begun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I tell you, this is why it's hard for anybody to go out and say that there's bad things about me because I've told you guys my whole entire life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you listen over the 10 years of me doing podcasting, but every part of my life has eaten out into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But including problems I've had with children of mine, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is no different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's why I don't trust in all my jewelry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 32 years ago, that's how long ago this was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 32 years ago, since my very early 20s, I was with my two oldest sons mother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think as 32 years you, I remember it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she was even still pregnant at that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had ran into these people that we befriended.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And after we had talked to them for a long period of time and had been a few weeks, they came to this opportunity because we were going to move to a different apartment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they came and they said, well, hey, we just found this really great house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is out in Rollsmouth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I gotta tell you, that part of Minnesota is all white.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you see black people out there, it's very few and far between.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only Asians that I saw there was the Asians that ran the Tycoon Dose Goose that I went to, was I went to a very famous one that I found out there in Rollsmouth of all places.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The June Reese Goose was out in Rollsmouth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you don't know who June Reese is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: of Taikwondo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He brought it from Korea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When the do was in his 70s, he was still doing a hundred push-ups a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has very famous nephews, Simon and Philip Rie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are national and world champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you ever see the movie, the best of the best, Simon Rie played the antagonist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He played Dayhan Park and Philip Rhee played the, the Asian that was on the American team who is up going against Dayhan at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very good movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Junrey is also the guy who taught Bruce Lee the one-inch punch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also trained Schupt Norris.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also trained Ernie Reyes Jr. Ernie Reyes Jr. is more famous for being, I think he was the green turtle and the T.A.D.D.

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[SPEAKER_00]: minute details.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I'm telling you, when I tell people, I know what I'm doing and I'm fighting, I do know because I was trained at this school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But back to my story, there are only ages I've really seen out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I said, let's go look at the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now remember, Rome, I was a ways from where we were at, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We was in heart of Minnesota, of a heart of Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we go out here and he's like, man, look, there's a plenty of reform.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great big house, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was enough room in this house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only four of us was going to be in it because it was going to meet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the time, my wife and then him and his woman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we take a bedroom each.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still a bedroom left for all of us to have another room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we said, fine, we'll move in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we move in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And miraculously, you know, we move into our bedroom and all the other rooms gets taken up for whatever you're in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he has all of his stuff and all these rooms, including his.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, no bro, we pan somebody's red.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we get one of these?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, this is only gonna be temporary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, you know, we just gotta move things around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it'd be so that I'll soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I knew this guy was kinda shady because he started doing things that proved who he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like one day, he's like, man, you want to come with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go run to the hardware somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he stopped at the gas station.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always say that he's one of the reasons why now you have to pay at the pump before you pump your gas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because back then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was none of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You pulled up to the pump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You pumped your gas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You went in and you paid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we said, nigga, my go pump this gas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he said, I was our cool cool, now understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish you could go back back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: $2 a gallon was too expensive for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish it was $2 a gallon now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's about $2, $2, $2, $35 a gallon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For regular unleaded at time, doesn't about close to three if you needed that premium.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we pump his gas, he's pump with his gas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the last thing I know, he just gets back in the truck and we take off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, bro, you didn't go inside to pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could, I don't need to pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we don't get this for free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, how do you get it for free without them knowing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I do, he said, look around you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what he said, that is because the gas station was totally packed at this time of day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knew exactly what times to go where everybody would be coming off work or going to and like shifts or whatever, and he did all this gas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, so what all these people are here, you've got at least six pumps that's going off at one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All I did was pump my gas and I hang it back up on the edge, but it looks like I hung up the pump, but he didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, so how does that work?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, one day I was in a store, just like this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was, this day was called essay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was standing there one day, and I was buying a soda and some chips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, there's no cars out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And listen, those are my pups going off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had three pups that was hanging on the edge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So three people came and stole gas that day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I think is not fair is that he was telling me that now all of that money because on his shift is gonna come out of his paycheck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, that's not fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, now it's one thing if you just stand here empty and he did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, but you had a whole bunch of cars in here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just found out on people left, but they took it out of his paycheck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that means that you're still in gas getting in for free, but someone is paying for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was uneasy about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he stole this whole tank of gas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say anything to my wife at the time, I just let this go, maybe there's a one-off thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next thing I know, he's calling Pizza Hut or Domino's actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He orders like four pieces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The pieces show up on time, hot, blazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He starts eating the pizza.

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[SPEAKER_00]: While he's eating the pizza, he's calling Domino's and lying about his food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was cold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the wrong toppings up on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This ain't the piece of that I ordered I'm sorry sir.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many pieces did you order and what was on them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Four pieces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we'll make it right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to send you four more pieces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now he's scamming dominos for free food and handle the phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's cracking up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did it to pop eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did it to KFC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like this dude is bad news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One day I go to tycoindole practice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I come home, I'm extremely tired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm practicing at this point to promote to a brown bill at that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ben told that June Reed himself was going to be coming to the promotion ceremony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if somebody was good enough beyond their brown bill, he would promote them right away to a black.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been busing my butt, getting down the cotters, and everything else I needed to make sure I'm getting my back kicks in, whole nine, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come home, there's a bunch of stuff in me in my wife's room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, what is this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she doesn't mean goes, oh, well, he says the order of bunch of stuff for he didn't have room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he asked if he can put it in our room and we pretty much, I guess, she said, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he came to meet, man, you know, I need to destroy this in for right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that all right, man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be out in another day or two, I'm like, yeah, okay, man, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then that day when when I'm standing in the room, I was sitting after he asked that, I do not comes on the door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's to rose my police.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like an officer's, I can we help you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cup goes, yeah, we've got reported there's some stolen property here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we need to take a look at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, but okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the cup comes in and do some of it to me and do some stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The two of you were staying with, and he goes, well, can we look around the house?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if I wasn't young and knew what I knew today, one first answer would have been,

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I would say you need to go get a warrant to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's invasions of my privacy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't do anything, so no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I want you to understand this, just because there are four people that's equally paying the rent there, so we might as well say four tenants, it only takes one person to say no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if the other tenants give permission to go search their rooms and their part of the house, they can do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can say no to search and monitor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was young, I was like, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 22, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we said, yeah, off to shore, ain't that in the hot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Goes his room, goes all over the rooms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bit my room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boom, George, we found something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Starts putting up this list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, yep, yep, yep, who's room is this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we have all the stolen property that they reported right here, and I'm like, that ain't my stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I didn't order anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have anything to come here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all his stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Daddy decided to put it in my room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They asked if they could and we said, yes, do you know what this joke did?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no officer, we didn't know anything about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And officer said, well, we're going to confiscate it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the rest of me says, here you go, here's a ticket, now you have the show up in court.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll let you wait a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you found stolen property, you found it in the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just told you this same mind, this belongs to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna take his word for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it comes like, well, is in your room, so you look like you guilty for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what happened was Mr. Scammer here

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you guys are too young, then what fingerhood is, it was a great program back in his day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a whole bunch of stuff that you could buy on fingerhood credit and the more you bought and paid off, the bigger credit balance they gave you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The woman who left her book there or arrived in the mail one of the two was the old tenant who moved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she had, I guess, a bucket load of credit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it was to the point that she could have ordered the most expensive thing in the finger of catalog, they wouldn't have blinked, they would have just processed it and sent it to her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what he did was he went through this book and ordered all kinds of computers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He ordered shelving words room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He ordered all kinds of stuff that if he got away with this, he was gonna put this up, you know, all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he went and paid for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I get no for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, what's the charge?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, receiving of stolen property.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have to go to court.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's why I don't trust them all by jury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I walk in, my public defender, I got it's called on public offenders because a lot of them don't really care about what you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got a heavy case load.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to get you in and get you out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the prosecutor came.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so before we even got into court really good, the prosecutor came over to my attorney into myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and said, I'm going to offer you a plea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, I don't want to plea because I didn't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said to me, this is not going to be said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, Mr. McClamm, we know you didn't do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now again, this is a white prosecutor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Looking at me, dad in my face, and he says, Mr. McClamm, we know you didn't do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the roommate that is probably responsible for this, he built it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's gone to the day the day, the day gave me that citation, the next board, the old boy packed the stuff up with the girl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they split.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, I don't know where he is to this day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the very first seems to be a misunderstanding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just vanished.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, but Mr. McClam, this woman was stolen from and someone has to pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, why should that be me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't do nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, well, do you really want to take your chance in court?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, only a guilty person takes a plea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't do anything of the sword.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, all right, Ms. McLean, let me tell you what you have against.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, 10 to 25 years is what they could give you for receiving a stolen property here in the state of good old Minnesota at this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to look around in that courtroom right now and tell me if you feel like here that you're going to get an all-white jury or a mixed one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he says your first thought is going to be correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, so the all-white jury that it be a jury of your peers has probably already figured you guilty before you walk into this courtroom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they convince you, you're gone automatically for 10 years at least, but the judge gave you 25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now do you trust that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I stopped for a moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm blown away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first thing I'm saying is, wow, a white prosecutor just told me that with no fear, you

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[SPEAKER_00]: No hesitation, like he knew that nothing could be done to him for telling me these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did I'm looking around the judge?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at my own part of the friend there because he ain't saying nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: getting encouraging me, you know, Miss McClam, don't take it, we can figure this out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Miss McClam, you have a clean record, we know you didn't do this, we can get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was saying nothing, this is all on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was sitting there looking like coming to front, just ain't a bug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I said, what is this plea deal that you want me to take?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, whatever it is, I'm not going to jail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because when he said 10 years, I was already shocked, because I'm like, dude, you know, I got a son, I was about to be born.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be gone to jail for no 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely not 15.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm definitely gonna go pull a 25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I spent my life up until this point being clean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I said, what is this plea deal?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't wanna go to jail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll do three years probation, and you'll pay back restitution $3,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When the restitution is paid, and you finish your three years probation, you're not getting cut on the probation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be a year to have, it ain't going to be two years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to serve all three years of probation, and when that's done, and the restitution is paid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only will the charge be dismissed, but we're going to explain it from your record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, they're y'all, and I'm just like, I can't win this case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way I win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I may have an all-way jury, I know to make up a rose money at that time, no way a black man is walking if they got the per hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I said, fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I took the plea deal because I didn't have a choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They booked and released me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did all three years of probation and I paid back three grand a restitution of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never even ordered or took and I'm gonna tell you what happened to all those computers.

53:13.771 --> 53:20.216
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of that stuff probably did make it back to the evidence locker, but I promise you because it was already going around.

53:20.916 --> 53:30.423
[SPEAKER_00]: That the police took all those computers and anything that they thought they'd get used for Christmas gift and they took that stuff home because it was a wrong Christmas time.

53:30.683 --> 53:36.348
[SPEAKER_00]: So I paid for some cops, kids, to wake up in the morning and be happy with new computer

53:39.962 --> 53:45.585
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if anybody wants to say that that I'm making this up for glamourization, let me go one step further.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, I told you I had a job at the county or the state took their time dwelling on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm holding waiting for letter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We found something in your background.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you've got to, you probably have to go and you probably got to have to write letters about it and we'll give you an exemption as they call it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I wonder what that could be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I want you to remember,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I did all the things that prosecutes you to stay at for me to do, this charge would be exposed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It will go away like it never happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And 32 years people discharge never came up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I finished with my probation, then more than they said is congratulations McClamm, it is a sponge.

54:30.351 --> 54:41.273
[SPEAKER_00]: David gave me a paper that said it was a sponge and on top of that they said, you do not have to admit to this that any background search because it's never going to come up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 32 years later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After all the background checks I did, after all the jobs I've had, after the background checks, I just had to do for the job of which I have.

54:56.357 --> 55:02.920
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is never came up until that job I suppose to have months ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and when I opened up and read the charge, I was like, this has been 32 years ago, people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's supposed to be exposed.

55:11.935 --> 55:19.539
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I want you to understand what this means, just because this is from Homeland Security, they too had to adhere to that law.

55:20.747 --> 55:22.168
[SPEAKER_00]: There they're playing dumb sale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't see it's being his bunch.

55:24.250 --> 55:39.143
[SPEAKER_00]: So the moment that I get this paper back now from Dakota County, and it says it's been expunged, I get to throw back in the face and say, now you can't question me about it, but I'm going to answer you anyway, because they want you to tell them exactly what happened, how it happened, and then at the end of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What have you done in your life to make sure you never repeat this again?

55:45.170 --> 55:55.903
[SPEAKER_00]: And here is why I'm part of not gonna get the exemption if they're looking me to say, Oh well, I went to rehab and I made sure I did never stole nothing that received and never stole it again.

55:56.283 --> 55:57.445
[SPEAKER_00]: That is what David said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

55:57.905 --> 55:59.007
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna say to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The same thing I was doing 32 years ago, when I caught this bogus charge in the first place, because I'm not a criminal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing anything wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've kept my nose clean my whole life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was nothing for me to change except for to do the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that I was doing 32 years ago, and I believe that it worked because you can find a criminal record on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have no time-asked me to jail.

56:31.186 --> 56:33.307
[SPEAKER_00]: You have no arrest record.

56:33.607 --> 56:36.748
[SPEAKER_00]: So therefore, I must have done what I'm supposed to do.

56:39.569 --> 56:42.130
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I didn't sit in front of the All-Way jury,

56:44.044 --> 56:55.907
[SPEAKER_00]: I already knew what I was going to get because remember this people, the prosecutor and the judge usually walks locked up, whatever the prosecution won't, prosecution usually gets.

56:56.827 --> 57:08.830
[SPEAKER_00]: So imagine if I did come up on charges, if I did say I'm going gamble and take my chances and went to trial and got convicted, I could see this man going, well, you know what, Mr. McClam?

57:10.411 --> 57:11.571
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to help you.

57:13.147 --> 57:14.667
[SPEAKER_00]: You threw my hill back at me.

57:15.848 --> 57:17.168
[SPEAKER_00]: You said you had this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I'm going to ask the judge to give you the maximum.

57:21.929 --> 57:23.810
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'll go up to the judge to give you the maximum.

57:25.790 --> 57:27.571
[SPEAKER_00]: But I had to look around and wear a mat too.

57:30.012 --> 57:34.513
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure if the prosecutor said, I won't him to have 15 or 20 years.

57:35.413 --> 57:36.393
[SPEAKER_00]: Judge would have gave me that.

57:36.533 --> 57:38.254
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a chance I did not want to take.

57:40.234 --> 57:42.075
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why this is unconstitutional.

57:43.570 --> 57:47.634
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why the appeal is going to stand when it comes to Carmel Anthony.

57:48.335 --> 57:49.977
[SPEAKER_00]: You are going to see a reversal.

57:51.879 --> 58:00.167
[SPEAKER_00]: You will see a retrial and I don't think it's going to go the way they want them to go now because now all the rest of this evidence is going to come out.

58:02.942 --> 58:10.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Now my question to everybody who is condemned him and said that he's a murderer and no one will look at the facts the case that got half or look at any of the evidence is out there.

58:11.045 --> 58:16.767
[SPEAKER_00]: But writing the most harshest thing, the ex-boys are criminal and I don't get me wrong.

58:17.588 --> 58:22.069
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a lot of racist people saying it because I think my first episode of old racist people came from me.

58:24.450 --> 58:25.951
[SPEAKER_00]: He talked about the side of his neck.

58:31.694 --> 58:32.755
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not taking them for a murderer.

58:32.915 --> 58:33.796
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm giving you the facts.

58:34.096 --> 58:38.119
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, a Carmilla Anthony was white, and he stabbed the black kid.

58:38.479 --> 58:40.140
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be telling you the exact same thing.

58:40.721 --> 58:46.245
[SPEAKER_00]: If two white kids, stabbed each other, I'll be telling you the same thing if these were the same facts.

58:47.826 --> 58:57.333
[SPEAKER_00]: Now before I go up to him and say some bottom minister, the funny thing that always happens with these kind of cases come out, is people want to start talking about black on black crime, that's a black community.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is killing each other and themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, since everybody can't want to talk about this, and this is the first thing that comes up, I'm like, let me do a little research into this, because see, just like with the black absentee father, we kind of found out that there are more white absentee father than there are blacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it goes by the shared number of white versus black that's around Doesn't matter to me when you want to come on and you want to make broad statements like yo all these follows in in the home Then I'm gonna come with you with the numbers

59:39.768 --> 59:44.473
[SPEAKER_00]: So I said, let me look into white all white crime versus black on black crime.

59:44.994 --> 59:46.996
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I want you to understand this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why there's such a high rate of white all white and black on black crime has to do a lot with games.

59:55.726 --> 59:58.309
[SPEAKER_00]: But when people start talking about black on black crime, they don't bring it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't white crime do they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they don't bring up the fact that they are biker clubs that are all white that go after other biker clubs that are all white and if they do some across other clubs they kill them.

01:00:14.394 --> 01:00:15.295
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't bring it up do they?

01:00:15.957 --> 01:00:25.384
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they don't bring out the white alienation against the skinheads whose hats, guffles, and fights from time to time and murders to take your place.

01:00:25.725 --> 01:00:26.825
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't bring it up though, doing.

01:00:27.406 --> 01:00:27.666
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.

01:00:28.146 --> 01:00:30.048
[SPEAKER_00]: We just bring up the black on black crop.

01:00:30.328 --> 01:00:32.990
[SPEAKER_00]: Which for the same reason is happening.

01:00:33.511 --> 01:00:35.132
[SPEAKER_00]: Crips don't get along with blood.

01:00:36.248 --> 01:00:39.230
[SPEAKER_00]: Disciples and bloods don't work out together.

01:00:39.270 --> 01:00:40.351
[SPEAKER_00]: You got the power rules.

01:00:40.391 --> 01:00:58.745
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we have all these games nothing any races have these games But this is where a lot of the black on black crime like the white on white crime comes from and the game world There's territory and there's drugs and there's sex workers and all these people are fighting to control the empire

01:01:00.312 --> 01:01:08.723
[SPEAKER_00]: So you look at white all white crime approximately, 57 to 69% of white violent crime victims are victimized by a white offender.

01:01:09.423 --> 01:01:14.890
[SPEAKER_00]: For a homicides specifically, the number is higher and it sits around 81 to 86%.

01:01:19.195 --> 01:01:27.837
[SPEAKER_00]: Now when you look at black and black crime, upon these 63 to 66% of black modern crime victims are victimized by black offenders.

01:01:28.498 --> 01:01:34.179
[SPEAKER_00]: And for a homicides with a sibling, the number is higher, sitting around 89%.

01:01:34.619 --> 01:01:37.840
[SPEAKER_00]: Now before you go to see, black and black crime is higher.

01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:39.220
[SPEAKER_00]: Not by much.

01:01:40.961 --> 01:01:44.442
[SPEAKER_00]: White or white crime still beats us out with it's not murder.

01:01:46.120 --> 01:01:51.823
[SPEAKER_00]: 57 to 69% of white violent crime victims are victimized by the fenders.

01:01:52.023 --> 01:01:59.207
[SPEAKER_00]: That's 3% higher than the highest rate for black on black crime, which maxes out of 66.

01:02:00.587 --> 01:02:05.730
[SPEAKER_00]: Now when it comes to murder, there's a 3 shift swing to black on black crime.

01:02:07.680 --> 01:02:16.365
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm going to tell you what I believe, because the white on white crime matches out at 86%, where they only gave one number for black on black crime, which was 89%.

01:02:19.888 --> 01:02:29.694
[SPEAKER_00]: If you are a look at per capita rate, since white on white rate is 12 per 1000 people, and black on black rate is 16.5 per 1000 black person.

01:02:29.714 --> 01:02:34.657
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let me tell you what I believe, and I was sat down with the daughter of an ex-biker.

01:02:37.832 --> 01:02:42.635
[SPEAKER_00]: That number's where it is because we haven't caught all the white crime that has taken place.

01:02:43.875 --> 01:02:50.119
[SPEAKER_00]: Matter of fact, the daughter of the banker, I'm talking about, that used to be a hails angels into burning up in the house fire.

01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:58.343
[SPEAKER_00]: He blew the whistle on the hails angels, which is why they think that the hails are just came and killed him.

01:02:59.704 --> 01:03:01.465
[SPEAKER_00]: The daughter was scared forever.

01:03:02.858 --> 01:03:13.500
[SPEAKER_00]: because she was like, I got to give all these patches back because when you are out of the game, you post going and giving the patches back and all of that, she thought for shoes she's gonna walk up and get killed, but they said, we don't have no beef for you.

01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:16.021
[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna still take care of you, show that.

01:03:16.281 --> 01:03:25.063
[SPEAKER_00]: But he said on that stamp, people, and he told everybody that there is murders that has not been solved by microplugs.

01:03:26.359 --> 01:03:33.822
[SPEAKER_00]: His mouth, he even gave them up one of the killings that he did that went unsolved.

01:03:35.475 --> 01:03:56.870
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think white on white crime is way higher than black on black crime, just by his testimony and other testimony are heard, the only difference is I guess black with this killed you more than open and don't, you know, where about hiding what they do when white on white crime, man, when you get smoked by one of these games, you go nobody sees you, nobody's coming for you.

01:03:56.950 --> 01:04:00.432
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know Buffy is Italian, but same thing.

01:04:01.353 --> 01:04:08.177
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, why you, you know, for years, they couldn't catch anybody because, you know, they was just rolling up a smokey, but they didn't know who did it.

01:04:08.297 --> 01:04:10.238
[SPEAKER_00]: They have an idea, but they couldn't prove that.

01:04:10.919 --> 01:04:16.022
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was John Gotti's boys that came and shot up Bodhi or whoever, right?

01:04:16.562 --> 01:04:19.964
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that the crime rates higher just hidden better.

01:04:21.425 --> 01:04:26.268
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing that we start doing now is everybody starts getting our religious and everybody starts

01:04:27.964 --> 01:04:31.266
[SPEAKER_00]: but the Bible actually says.

01:04:33.907 --> 01:04:44.892
[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing I don't do is I never really listen or look at any type of video, and you're like that that has to do with any one side.

01:04:46.173 --> 01:04:47.114
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you what I mean by that.

01:04:47.234 --> 01:04:55.658
[SPEAKER_00]: So for instance, if somebody says, you know, the liberals has destroyed conservative, I listen to it, because I already know where's gonna go.

01:04:56.450 --> 01:04:59.672
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody says, the Conservatives is going to destroy, don't listen to it.

01:05:00.313 --> 01:05:01.233
[SPEAKER_00]: Are there what's going to go?

01:05:01.454 --> 01:05:02.534
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be one sided.

01:05:03.495 --> 01:05:08.599
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I went to work to the day out of a few minutes, I was watching videos and this video pops a bit my timeline.

01:05:09.179 --> 01:05:14.963
[SPEAKER_00]: And it says, Black Pastor destroys the Black Liberals and Carmelo Anthony supporters.

01:05:16.164 --> 01:05:16.964
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice whip through it.

01:05:17.825 --> 01:05:24.730
[SPEAKER_00]: The my thing is if I swipe through you and you come back to my timeline a couple of times, maybe I need to watch it, maybe it's meant for me to watch you.

01:05:26.759 --> 01:05:30.122
[SPEAKER_01]: But when I swiped up, something said, no, go back and watch that video.

01:05:32.364 --> 01:05:35.286
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I'm not going to like it, but I'm going to watch this video.

01:05:36.087 --> 01:05:37.348
[SPEAKER_00]: And I proceeded to watch this video.

01:05:38.609 --> 01:05:39.850
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a black minister.

01:05:40.470 --> 01:05:42.372
[SPEAKER_00]: His name is G Craig Lewis.

01:05:43.133 --> 01:05:45.875
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think his ministry's ex-ministries are something like that.

01:05:48.377 --> 01:05:51.720
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes on to say some things I actually agree with.

01:05:53.113 --> 01:05:56.095
[SPEAKER_00]: right like we should not hate because he's not in the Bible.

01:05:56.335 --> 01:05:56.835
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

01:05:56.895 --> 01:05:58.376
[SPEAKER_00]: God, he's not to hate folks.

01:05:58.456 --> 01:05:58.916
[SPEAKER_00]: Got you.

01:06:00.097 --> 01:06:05.380
[SPEAKER_00]: But then as he was, was cooking with some of the things, then he started going left on me.

01:06:06.381 --> 01:06:07.601
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, everybody hates Trump.

01:06:08.042 --> 01:06:08.882
[SPEAKER_00]: Why did you hate Trump?

01:06:09.422 --> 01:06:11.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Why did people hate the president of the United States?

01:06:11.384 --> 01:06:14.265
[SPEAKER_00]: What has he done to you to make you hate him?

01:06:14.605 --> 01:06:16.507
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm saying you're going to start a real question.

01:06:17.767 --> 01:06:18.508
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't hate Trump.

01:06:19.388 --> 01:06:24.012
[SPEAKER_00]: I just like everything he does, hates a very strong word, and that's a Christmas post hate anyone.

01:06:24.092 --> 01:06:32.980
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't got to like what you do, but to ask that question, especially to an all-black audience, because he's telling these black people that they all wrong.

01:06:34.441 --> 01:06:37.164
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what is he not done for people not to hate him?

01:06:38.075 --> 01:06:39.576
[SPEAKER_00]: All the promises he did was broken.

01:06:40.196 --> 01:06:42.197
[SPEAKER_00]: He's tried to remove my race from everything.

01:06:42.717 --> 01:06:49.160
[SPEAKER_00]: He's taken out black history in schools, what he called, they call it critical race theory because they're afraid that some white kids gonna be offended.

01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:51.140
[SPEAKER_00]: He's taken every book out.

01:06:51.641 --> 01:06:53.181
[SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to take away freedom of speech.

01:06:53.681 --> 01:06:57.143
[SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to erase black history month from the books.

01:06:57.563 --> 01:07:00.144
[SPEAKER_00]: He's tried to take down anything that has to do with black people.

01:07:01.164 --> 01:07:01.584
[SPEAKER_00]: Period.

01:07:02.185 --> 01:07:04.626
[SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to deport everybody who's brown.

01:07:05.006 --> 01:07:06.326
[SPEAKER_00]: He would deport us if he could,

01:07:08.724 --> 01:07:13.405
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going in and wrecking lies, but you asked the question, what is he done?

01:07:13.425 --> 01:07:21.688
[SPEAKER_00]: Now when it came to Trump, see this is one young one like you got to mean what you say and say what you mean, because now he's wishy-washy.

01:07:22.328 --> 01:07:24.349
[SPEAKER_00]: He starts talking about the Southeast of Tim's well.

01:07:24.969 --> 01:07:28.870
[SPEAKER_00]: They say it was the Southeast of Tim, but in this day and time, I can't believe everything.

01:07:30.130 --> 01:07:35.012
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's alluding to the fact that he believes that probably the Southeast of the Tim's was set up.

01:07:36.376 --> 01:07:41.980
[SPEAKER_00]: But then he goes on to say that his Bible is telling him these things.

01:07:42.040 --> 01:07:54.188
[SPEAKER_00]: He starts reading of all these scriptures in the end time and about how we, uh, liberal people, she'd be ashamed of ourselves because we are supporting Carmella Anthony and he killed this boy.

01:07:54.788 --> 01:07:55.769
[SPEAKER_00]: He stabbed him.

01:07:56.630 --> 01:07:57.970
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he starts telling lies.

01:07:58.271 --> 01:07:59.592
[SPEAKER_00]: And here's one lie starts telling.

01:07:59.952 --> 01:08:01.653
[SPEAKER_00]: It has been going around the internet.

01:08:05.869 --> 01:08:20.501
[SPEAKER_00]: that black people has been showing up at awesome makeups grave and has been peeing on his grave and saying that their gladies day day, you know, he deserves people he's at.

01:08:20.961 --> 01:08:26.866
[SPEAKER_00]: So do my due diligence and I'll look it up on two sources.

01:08:28.727 --> 01:08:32.410
[SPEAKER_00]: I start digging through social media and I start digging through news

01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:35.840
[SPEAKER_00]: and then I asked chatGPT.

01:08:37.141 --> 01:08:40.581
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm gonna tell you some people, chatGPT was on point, everything I found.

01:08:40.681 --> 01:08:42.521
[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes, AI and that bad.

01:08:43.222 --> 01:08:53.183
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember we've already done with chatGPT told me, and I'm gonna tell you it's true because the new sources that chatGPT is mentioning here is the same new sources I pulled this information from.

01:08:54.724 --> 01:08:58.664
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, can you verify that Blibbe was being an awesome Metcass grave?

01:09:00.365 --> 01:09:02.005
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what chatGPT told me.

01:09:02.305 --> 01:09:02.505
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:09:03.693 --> 01:09:09.436
[SPEAKER_00]: The claim that W.W. were paying an awesome Midcast grave is not verified as a real, in-person event.

01:09:10.497 --> 01:09:19.104
[SPEAKER_00]: What credible reporting says is that internet trolls posted doctored or manipulated images made to look like people where you're netting on his grave.

01:09:19.745 --> 01:09:29.372
[SPEAKER_00]: The New York Post described the photos as edited, and there are also online reports identified AI-dinnerated or altered images circulating with racist framing.

01:09:29.953 --> 01:09:37.039
[SPEAKER_00]: There is no reliable evidence that a group of bright people actually went to the cemetery and did this.

01:09:38.192 --> 01:09:45.274
[SPEAKER_00]: This law was construed from the Metcalfe Sliver and others because they wanted to make black people look as animalistic as possible.

01:09:46.434 --> 01:09:56.177
[SPEAKER_00]: But this minister, who has not done his due process, who has not researched it, is just recurgitating this stuff like it's gospel in front of this audience.

01:09:57.057 --> 01:09:58.017
[SPEAKER_00]: And they eat it up.

01:09:59.578 --> 01:10:05.419
[SPEAKER_00]: He starts going through all of these entire scriptures and just twisting them.

01:10:08.342 --> 01:10:12.665
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he jumps on groups like Black Lives Matter.

01:10:13.005 --> 01:10:19.871
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we've all had a discussion of what I believe about Black Lives Matter and it is not good.

01:10:20.391 --> 01:10:21.632
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they all fall to a group.

01:10:22.372 --> 01:10:27.836
[SPEAKER_00]: But now this guy's called them demons saying that they're holding safe tenant rituals.

01:10:28.697 --> 01:10:33.601
[SPEAKER_00]: Also throws a picture of one of them up on the screen at one point.

01:10:34.851 --> 01:10:43.258
[SPEAKER_00]: where he started saying, see, she's praying for all of this demonic stuff to happen.

01:10:43.338 --> 01:10:44.319
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at how she looks.

01:10:45.360 --> 01:10:55.148
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, because I don't do all that deep type research in the bad lives better, because you guys know what I feel about them, I decide I'm like, is this is this true?

01:10:56.229 --> 01:10:57.951
[SPEAKER_00]: Does black live matters?

01:10:58.771 --> 01:11:00.493
[SPEAKER_00]: Do they hold rituals?

01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:04.862
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, are we really getting Satanic up on this one?

01:11:06.283 --> 01:11:07.503
[SPEAKER_00]: So, what did I do?

01:11:09.384 --> 01:11:10.305
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a research.

01:11:11.526 --> 01:11:12.346
[SPEAKER_00]: Come to find out.

01:11:13.867 --> 01:11:15.008
[SPEAKER_00]: They do whole rituals.

01:11:16.329 --> 01:11:18.210
[SPEAKER_00]: But then that's what's be Satanic in nature.

01:11:18.910 --> 01:11:21.712
[SPEAKER_00]: So, one of the rituals they hold is supposed to be called why bashings.

01:11:23.782 --> 01:11:28.806
[SPEAKER_00]: where they do a ritual where they pour out some lot of patience for those who have died.

01:11:29.506 --> 01:11:34.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, from we just call that Poison 40 on a dead homey day in the ritual.

01:11:35.891 --> 01:11:44.717
[SPEAKER_00]: But the way they're going about it supposedly is because I guess they're pouring this out and they're asking the ancestors to be with them.

01:11:45.177 --> 01:11:46.098
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a problem there.

01:11:47.659 --> 01:11:48.780
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's all I'll say and say,

01:11:55.512 --> 01:12:06.254
[SPEAKER_00]: But this guy used his pool pit to slam Parmel Anthony to go completely for the Metcalf boys because he said they said it was bullies and they wouldn't bullies.

01:12:06.634 --> 01:12:08.114
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know that, no doing.

01:12:08.834 --> 01:12:13.095
[SPEAKER_00]: According to all the stuff that's pointed around, they in fact was.

01:12:14.715 --> 01:12:16.816
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, right now, this is my testifies to it.

01:12:16.836 --> 01:12:20.956
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like we have to say, it's third party, party speculation, but from everything I've

01:12:25.113 --> 01:12:26.974
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he wants to take up for Jeff Metcalf.

01:12:27.494 --> 01:12:32.095
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you miss the three hour long racist tirade this dude put on?

01:12:32.155 --> 01:12:35.276
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, Jeff Metcalf is the cast me out.

01:12:35.316 --> 01:12:37.697
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he starts saying, black people was swatting him.

01:12:38.437 --> 01:12:39.517
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know that for sure.

01:12:39.738 --> 01:12:41.878
[SPEAKER_00]: There's somebody with a swatting him for what I understand.

01:12:42.738 --> 01:12:49.821
[SPEAKER_00]: But everything that happened to the Metcalf family supposedly happened at the hands of someone who's butt.

01:12:54.999 --> 01:12:57.860
[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't say that it is true because I don't have reporting to break that up.

01:13:00.221 --> 01:13:07.885
[SPEAKER_00]: All I can tell you is that what he said was very offensive and that was true.

01:13:09.866 --> 01:13:12.687
[SPEAKER_00]: But this came from a conservative viewpoint.

01:13:12.907 --> 01:13:14.068
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it someone in the middle?

01:13:15.508 --> 01:13:17.129
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it someone just looking at the case?

01:13:18.500 --> 01:13:26.326
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a one-sided viewpoint which is about to listen to those kinds of sermons or speeches.

01:13:28.488 --> 01:13:37.375
[SPEAKER_00]: It also goes to say that there's been many of conservative men who say Trauma, Martin decided to deserve to die and so did George Floyd.

01:13:39.257 --> 01:13:41.699
[SPEAKER_00]: However, that's wrong.

01:13:43.380 --> 01:13:45.162
[SPEAKER_00]: No men who should be using their pooper for that.

01:13:46.548 --> 01:13:51.231
[SPEAKER_00]: not saying you should go and preach a sermon that says, Carl Millanthi was innocent, neither.

01:13:53.253 --> 01:14:02.279
[SPEAKER_00]: But to put smoke on something like that, to say that, blind people live in their life all wrong because they stand on one side or another.

01:14:02.839 --> 01:14:13.907
[SPEAKER_00]: To basically say that we should have no opinion because the Bible says so, but you're using biblical terms to suit yourself.

01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:18.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we kind of get you one that I mean, now they're told you about the BLM.

01:14:18.362 --> 01:14:21.725
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what he had up on the screen when he was doing this survey.

01:14:23.660 --> 01:14:34.506
[SPEAKER_00]: Since the BLM has cast a spell upon our whole nation, their country's specific ancestral spirits, demons, from the flood to our realm with sern and Europa rituals.

01:14:35.086 --> 01:14:37.487
[SPEAKER_00]: This has created a new breed of liberal people.

01:14:38.028 --> 01:14:47.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Black people that hate themselves in their lives so much that they will spew their nation upon white people, law enforcement, and even the president of our country.

01:14:48.333 --> 01:15:04.212
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he references 2nd Peter 210, but chiefly, them that walked after the flesh in the lust of uncleaness and despised government, presumptuous are they self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

01:15:05.655 --> 01:15:16.022
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though there is very little racial bias or inhibiting blacks from the success today, they still believe the white man is a blame for their issue or into lives.

01:15:16.402 --> 01:15:27.950
[SPEAKER_00]: But did the white man make them have multiple sex partners, bad diets, perversion, retlock bursts, abortions, witchcraft, ignorance, bad choices and decisions, violence and bad

01:15:30.992 --> 01:15:39.221
[SPEAKER_00]: Did he reference Galatians 6.7, be not deceived, God is not mine for whatsoever man so with that show he also read.

01:15:40.402 --> 01:15:42.644
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, but he twisted to his own thing, right?

01:15:42.664 --> 01:15:46.048
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause that last one is really dammed and I'm gonna tell you that here as we close out.

01:15:47.847 --> 01:15:50.188
[SPEAKER_00]: But now he's accused him of doing a ritual.

01:15:50.228 --> 01:16:01.410
[SPEAKER_00]: This, this, this minister went on to say, you know, he accused my rituals and demonic that basically that there's this big old spirit of hate in the world and that black people dislike themselves.

01:16:01.430 --> 01:16:09.252
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I read there that they're blaming the white man and they hate the white man and they will attack law enforcement and do all this because this, this demonic spirit.

01:16:09.933 --> 01:16:11.134
[SPEAKER_00]: There's over all of us.

01:16:11.734 --> 01:16:17.658
[SPEAKER_00]: And all of us that says that they don't think our military is guilty, we have this demonic spirit.

01:16:18.058 --> 01:16:19.299
[SPEAKER_00]: And we need to get right with God.

01:16:19.599 --> 01:16:20.820
[SPEAKER_00]: Ain't no no money about David.

01:16:24.562 --> 01:16:27.604
[SPEAKER_00]: I just look at the facts in the everyday and I'm telling you what I believe.

01:16:27.644 --> 01:16:30.566
[SPEAKER_00]: Now if I'm wrong, I'd be the first to come back and say something wrong, but I don't believe I am.

01:16:30.606 --> 01:16:35.249
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe you're gonna see that in the coming days and weeks as this plays out, maybe the coming couple years.

01:16:37.304 --> 01:16:42.106
[SPEAKER_00]: But now he's accusing him of our every black person who does this, we should be shame of ourselves.

01:16:43.006 --> 01:16:44.306
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's the damn nation part.

01:16:45.047 --> 01:16:59.131
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he think Republicans, Magda, I should say, or Trump is immune to the verse he just read, or that he signed it, Galatians 67, be not deceived.

01:17:00.132 --> 01:17:06.914
[SPEAKER_00]: God is not mocked, but whatsoever a man so with that shall he also reap.

01:17:08.093 --> 01:17:09.654
[SPEAKER_00]: has trumped not marked God.

01:17:11.636 --> 01:17:13.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Obday goes several different occasions.

01:17:14.719 --> 01:17:16.400
[SPEAKER_00]: He said he's better than Jesus.

01:17:17.742 --> 01:17:22.686
[SPEAKER_00]: He's actually depicted himself in AR picturee of himself as Christ.

01:17:25.048 --> 01:17:28.071
[SPEAKER_00]: He has spiritually vice of a name of Paula White.

01:17:28.471 --> 01:17:31.354
[SPEAKER_00]: Now Paula White King, because I guess she got married.

01:17:33.153 --> 01:17:48.057
[SPEAKER_00]: This was the same woman that, when he was trying to get elected, that she said that she was praying for God, they said angels on monkeys wings, from Africa and all these, angels from Africa and all these other countries who was coming to surround Trump.

01:17:48.677 --> 01:17:54.879
[SPEAKER_00]: At the same time as reported, that she's having all kinds of affairs, and I won't period of time, they thought that she was having a fairer Trump.

01:17:58.219 --> 01:17:59.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that not mocking God?

01:18:02.268 --> 01:18:04.249
[SPEAKER_00]: as a man so it's so shall he reap.

01:18:05.589 --> 01:18:07.570
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't think Trump has a lot to reap for.

01:18:08.670 --> 01:18:15.213
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't think the people that's in this world that's doing the things that they are supposed to do or not supposed to do don't have some to reap for.

01:18:16.013 --> 01:18:20.775
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't think all of the people whose fans who ripped apart, that's not a seed being shown.

01:18:21.895 --> 01:18:29.158
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're going to preach this conservative message, understand that that by the verse applies to everyone.

01:18:29.876 --> 01:18:32.257
[SPEAKER_00]: if you don't twist it to your own, understand.

01:18:33.458 --> 01:18:35.579
[SPEAKER_00]: But according to this minister, Trump's doing everything that's right.

01:18:36.080 --> 01:18:38.661
[SPEAKER_00]: Back after everything that was right by doing his rant, whatever.

01:18:39.362 --> 01:18:40.723
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Carmella has been killed.

01:18:43.564 --> 01:18:48.227
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't heard one real minister say anything of this sort.

01:18:49.008 --> 01:18:54.311
[SPEAKER_00]: Haven't really really haven't heard one real minister even addressed this from the pulpit.

01:18:55.291 --> 01:18:56.312
[SPEAKER_00]: They've told us to leave it alone.

01:18:57.629 --> 01:19:05.495
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm telling you, when you have leaders like that, there's in the church that say these kind of things, this is what stir the whole racial situation.

01:19:06.815 --> 01:19:14.381
[SPEAKER_00]: And now a lot of people call them, Uncle Toms and say things like they should be put with the white people and all that kind of stuff.

01:19:16.662 --> 01:19:22.847
[SPEAKER_00]: All of me to tell you is, don't listen to one side of messages, whether it's conservative or liberal.

01:19:23.580 --> 01:19:24.541
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to stay in the middle.

01:19:24.801 --> 01:19:31.605
[SPEAKER_00]: The new sources that I listen to, which is none of the big media, I listen to all independent new sources.

01:19:32.225 --> 01:19:35.587
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, reach water is in all those guys.

01:19:36.148 --> 01:19:37.288
[SPEAKER_00]: They're dead in the middle.

01:19:38.509 --> 01:19:40.811
[SPEAKER_00]: If something's wrong on the left, they go taste them wrong on the left.

01:19:40.831 --> 01:19:42.712
[SPEAKER_00]: If something's wrong on the right, they go and tell you that too.

01:19:42.752 --> 01:19:44.233
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you need to be a listen to.

01:19:45.654 --> 01:19:47.615
[SPEAKER_00]: But all I'm trying to tell you guys is this.

01:19:49.016 --> 01:19:52.238
[SPEAKER_00]: Throughout this time period, pay attention to what's happening.

01:19:53.123 --> 01:19:57.127
[SPEAKER_00]: go look up everything I just told you, go research it if you need to.

01:19:58.348 --> 01:20:03.832
[SPEAKER_00]: Come to your all conclusion, but remove all the things that we already know about this case.

01:20:05.394 --> 01:20:09.417
[SPEAKER_00]: And right now it is heavily being fought on the racial side.

01:20:09.437 --> 01:20:20.327
[SPEAKER_00]: It was leads me to this last comment of why I feel like black people went and processed it way too soon and what it looked like to someone else.

01:20:22.409 --> 01:20:25.716
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, there was nothing to protest at the beginning of this case.

01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:28.883
[SPEAKER_00]: No one had been in the courtroom yet.

01:20:29.750 --> 01:20:30.871
[SPEAKER_00]: crime happened a year ago.

01:20:31.512 --> 01:20:36.976
[SPEAKER_00]: Carmelo wasn't even in jail because the judge lowered his bill to I think 250,000.

01:20:37.617 --> 01:20:40.379
[SPEAKER_00]: They were able to make that with the only half to give a percentage.

01:20:40.419 --> 01:20:43.202
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what it is, like, 30% or whatever the case is.

01:20:43.622 --> 01:20:44.863
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can put your house up.

01:20:44.883 --> 01:20:45.484
[SPEAKER_00]: They're guaranteed.

01:20:45.504 --> 01:20:46.685
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a person's going to come back.

01:20:47.085 --> 01:20:52.630
[SPEAKER_00]: So the moment that Carmelo showed up to his first David's murder trial, that money was released and went back to where he was

01:20:56.702 --> 01:20:57.762
[SPEAKER_00]: They were in the protest shed.

01:20:57.802 --> 01:21:00.243
[SPEAKER_00]: We hadn't even heard opening statements that no one was going to happen.

01:21:00.463 --> 01:21:07.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Even after Carmelo went and the jury's election was done, that was still on the time of protest.

01:21:08.526 --> 01:21:13.167
[SPEAKER_00]: Because what it looks like is that, black people are saying, at least the ones that's protesting.

01:21:14.007 --> 01:21:16.308
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he killed a dude, we really don't care.

01:21:17.982 --> 01:21:18.623
[SPEAKER_00]: He's black.

01:21:18.743 --> 01:21:19.723
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be railroading.

01:21:19.743 --> 01:21:20.444
[SPEAKER_00]: He's in Texas.

01:21:20.504 --> 01:21:22.785
[SPEAKER_00]: We pro we we're going to help me out here in protest.

01:21:23.146 --> 01:21:24.226
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when this is somebody else.

01:21:24.727 --> 01:21:26.188
[SPEAKER_00]: This while all the hard car was came.

01:21:26.328 --> 01:21:27.869
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you just this boy's a killer.

01:21:27.889 --> 01:21:29.030
[SPEAKER_00]: You just want to take up for him.

01:21:29.050 --> 01:21:32.352
[SPEAKER_00]: Just want to do this to other thing because it wasn't a time to protest yet.

01:21:32.392 --> 01:21:34.254
[SPEAKER_00]: We still got nothing to protest.

01:21:37.676 --> 01:21:38.356
[SPEAKER_00]: When the all right.

01:21:38.376 --> 01:21:39.797
[SPEAKER_00]: Jerusalem, nothing to protest yet.

01:21:39.817 --> 01:21:43.360
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we know we know we know it's not fair to have all my jury.

01:21:43.700 --> 01:21:46.102
[SPEAKER_00]: But we don't have enough to protest yet.

01:21:48.060 --> 01:21:53.102
[SPEAKER_00]: The protest should have came after the conviction, but one is more powerful.

01:21:54.383 --> 01:21:56.003
[SPEAKER_00]: You now send a direct message.

01:21:56.704 --> 01:22:03.646
[SPEAKER_00]: You send the message of, I'm not coming out because he was accused and then convicted of murder.

01:22:04.527 --> 01:22:10.369
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm coming out because we think his trial was not fair as now the message that is given.

01:22:17.673 --> 01:22:18.553
[SPEAKER_00]: What else do you protest?

01:22:18.794 --> 01:22:20.915
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you have very good defense.

01:22:21.435 --> 01:22:23.136
[SPEAKER_00]: The defense hardly put anything on.

01:22:23.536 --> 01:22:25.817
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna be looking deeper into this case now.

01:22:26.157 --> 01:22:29.979
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna see what other things that may not have been right in this case.

01:22:31.540 --> 01:22:34.641
[SPEAKER_00]: Now for anybody to come and say, oh my God, the black dude was just being racist.

01:22:35.182 --> 01:22:37.523
[SPEAKER_00]: No, because we waited to the appropriate time.

01:22:38.688 --> 01:22:39.529
[SPEAKER_00]: to say something.

01:22:40.169 --> 01:22:49.678
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you come out of the beginner murder trial, especially black people and species of black on white case, then you start protesters from the day one, doors ain't even open.

01:22:49.898 --> 01:22:54.102
[SPEAKER_00]: That sense of signal of they don't really care what happens to the man calf boy.

01:22:54.463 --> 01:22:58.166
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't care who he killed as long as they get black y'all.

01:22:58.707 --> 01:22:59.988
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all that matters to do.

01:23:01.301 --> 01:23:10.844
[SPEAKER_00]: Now in Haskell, now that there was plans that was placed there, there was plans that was placed on the white side against the start of freshers blocks, some city was plans that was for the black to the other side.

01:23:11.304 --> 01:23:11.724
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:23:11.884 --> 01:23:21.147
[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe there was plans there in agitators, because several people said that including there's over white woman that was coming out of the courtroom that was being interviewed.

01:23:23.668 --> 01:23:24.828
[SPEAKER_00]: But we didn't protest right.

01:23:26.070 --> 01:23:29.191
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why a lot of us didn't say anything until after the trial was over.

01:23:29.231 --> 01:23:31.652
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I didn't bring you the case until trial day three.

01:23:33.173 --> 01:23:35.274
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why we're all just now talking about it now.

01:23:37.314 --> 01:23:38.595
[SPEAKER_00]: People's like, well, he got convicted.

01:23:38.635 --> 01:23:39.155
[SPEAKER_00]: It's too late.

01:23:39.195 --> 01:23:39.975
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it ain't too late.

01:23:41.776 --> 01:23:44.957
[SPEAKER_00]: Our whole Carmelo state safer there to we get all the proof that we did.

01:23:45.277 --> 01:23:46.698
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, it is not too late.

01:23:47.598 --> 01:23:48.979
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where you want to be now.

01:23:50.028 --> 01:23:53.451
[SPEAKER_00]: because several white attorneys said the same thing like the black ones.

01:23:53.951 --> 01:23:59.815
[SPEAKER_00]: If he gets convicted of this, the prosecution just handed him a get-all of jail free card.

01:24:00.375 --> 01:24:06.640
[SPEAKER_00]: And if they overturn his conviction, he'd go at home because there was no other charge that they had.

01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:14.826
[SPEAKER_00]: Now unfortunately for Carmelo, double jeopardy does not kick in when the conviction is overturned.

01:24:15.770 --> 01:24:22.095
[SPEAKER_00]: double jeopardy, only kicks in if somebody has been acquitted of the case, and it can never be tried again.

01:24:22.135 --> 01:24:28.900
[SPEAKER_00]: But because this is a reversal of a conviction, the prosecution will have the right to try the case again.

01:24:30.041 --> 01:24:31.402
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, don't quote me on this.

01:24:31.422 --> 01:24:32.443
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to look them a long time.

01:24:32.543 --> 01:24:36.346
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think after the second time, we're going to have them take a retry again.

01:24:36.406 --> 01:24:37.827
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I think this is it.

01:24:38.868 --> 01:24:41.190
[SPEAKER_00]: But they have the right to retry at the first time.

01:24:45.885 --> 01:24:53.511
[SPEAKER_00]: We should just set down, they should bid, we should bid our time, protest it when the protest of is right.

01:24:55.232 --> 01:24:56.373
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm protesting now.

01:24:57.874 --> 01:25:00.135
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe a lot more stuff happened on that tin.

01:25:01.156 --> 01:25:03.478
[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe Carmille anything with all of the stuff difference.

01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:05.920
[SPEAKER_00]: For all the reports I have read,

01:25:07.052 --> 01:25:08.253
[SPEAKER_00]: All of the research I have done.

01:25:08.273 --> 01:25:11.634
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't the people tell me, I've been watching videos about it.

01:25:12.114 --> 01:25:15.736
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been doing research into it, digging in newspapers, trying to dig it.

01:25:15.776 --> 01:25:19.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I could about that high school, the Metcass bro.

01:25:19.257 --> 01:25:21.518
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been putting in a lot of research time into this.

01:25:23.819 --> 01:25:27.060
[SPEAKER_00]: Something does not stir the Kulei correctly.

01:25:28.501 --> 01:25:30.902
[SPEAKER_00]: There's something wrong with this case.

01:25:31.863 --> 01:25:37.546
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that I have hit the nail on the head, but most of them have to be getting of this video.

01:25:38.947 --> 01:25:39.907
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say this again.

01:25:40.628 --> 01:25:50.113
[SPEAKER_00]: If it is found out that Carmelo Anthony is just a murderer and he wouldn't stab this boy in cold blood and he needs to be put away for life even.

01:25:51.213 --> 01:25:52.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't think that that's what happened.

01:25:53.214 --> 01:25:54.975
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't believe this with the video shows.

01:25:55.536 --> 01:25:59.698
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why the video has been told not to be shown anymore in these parts of it.

01:26:00.513 --> 01:26:02.134
[SPEAKER_00]: do think he got bullied that day.

01:26:02.975 --> 01:26:10.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm not going to go into all the history that I've dug up the day, swear that Austin was the favorite child and that Hunter got his brother killed.

01:26:10.240 --> 01:26:19.327
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to dig into all that, but it has been said that Hunter was not the favorite kid that Austin was and that his dad is pretty mad.

01:26:19.808 --> 01:26:22.089
[SPEAKER_00]: That Austin died over Hunter.

01:26:22.710 --> 01:26:23.971
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's true or not.

01:26:24.371 --> 01:26:25.332
[SPEAKER_00]: That was being reported.

01:26:27.260 --> 01:26:38.628
[SPEAKER_00]: But, until somebody proves me otherwise, until somebody brings me different evidence to sway my opinion and say, see, this heavily was not self-defense.

01:26:40.489 --> 01:26:45.813
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to believe that it was, and I'm gonna say this again, there is a video out there folks.

01:26:46.579 --> 01:26:49.403
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a video that somebody took on their cell phone.

01:26:49.963 --> 01:26:59.716
[SPEAKER_00]: There is no kid between the ages of 14 and 18 years of age that when stuff like this go down does not pull out the phone or start recording a video.

01:27:00.176 --> 01:27:01.238
[SPEAKER_00]: A video exists.

01:27:01.758 --> 01:27:03.199
[SPEAKER_00]: One or two things is happening to it.

01:27:03.739 --> 01:27:05.841
[SPEAKER_00]: One somebody deleted it out of fear.

01:27:06.301 --> 01:27:09.923
[SPEAKER_00]: Two somebody still has it or maybe a couple of people has it.

01:27:10.323 --> 01:27:17.228
[SPEAKER_00]: But nobody's come forward with that video yet because that video does not show what everyone said took place.

01:27:17.848 --> 01:27:21.710
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe the video does not show the Metcalfs in the best light.

01:27:22.411 --> 01:27:24.292
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it supports Carmelo Anthony.

01:27:25.312 --> 01:27:26.773
[SPEAKER_00]: And one or two things is going to happen.

01:27:27.014 --> 01:27:28.815
[SPEAKER_00]: One, the video will never ever be shown.

01:27:29.721 --> 01:27:40.154
[SPEAKER_00]: You have met Cafe scared whoever may have it that you turned his in and it convicts my boy or it gets a murder off then I'm coming for you could happen.

01:27:40.194 --> 01:27:41.055
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one two.

01:27:42.416 --> 01:27:45.840
[SPEAKER_00]: The video will be shown because somebody has a conscience.

01:27:46.596 --> 01:27:48.517
[SPEAKER_00]: and is eating at them as we speak.

01:27:49.058 --> 01:27:57.564
[SPEAKER_00]: And every time they go to bed at night and they flip on a TV or they toss and they turn, all they see is what really happened on that video.

01:27:57.944 --> 01:28:05.689
[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually, that person is gonna be so distraught and breakdown that they will get up the video and the evidence.

01:28:06.029 --> 01:28:09.772
[SPEAKER_00]: And at that time, all heck will break loose if that's true.

01:28:15.236 --> 01:28:18.118
[SPEAKER_00]: I know as a doozy, I will keep coming in as stuff comes out.

01:28:18.238 --> 01:28:23.240
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not doing a multitude of episodes like other people's doing.

01:28:23.781 --> 01:28:26.042
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll put you some names as doing it continuously.

01:28:26.482 --> 01:28:32.445
[SPEAKER_00]: But the next time I come back would be when we have more evidence or when the appeal has been further, so I keep you guys abreast.

01:28:32.885 --> 01:28:34.806
[SPEAKER_00]: Other episodes will be coming out here shortly.

01:28:35.226 --> 01:28:41.750
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys for tearing with me and I know that you have more choices and true crime and interview podcasts and I'm grateful.

01:28:42.575 --> 01:28:44.857
[SPEAKER_00]: that I'm just one of your choices.

01:28:45.818 --> 01:28:53.825
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01:28:54.745 --> 01:29:01.271
[SPEAKER_00]: A little love of compassion can go a long way, and then there is an extraordinary person in all of us.

01:29:02.152 --> 01:29:03.473
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